Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century

[deeiluka]

I am double checking everything....will finish tomorrow....eyes now too tired. 


.....dee

[deeiluka]

Right……I have double checked all the South Australian records that I can access. The Robert Hutton, pharmacist, that Ian’s contact is telling him was married to Catherine Downey, died in 1914 in Norwood, South Australia aged 83, meaning he was born around 1831. However, the record says he was a single man.

BISA also has the following for him…..
Robert HUTTON, unmarried and born in England around 1831 ENG, arrived in 1849 on the  NAVARINO, and died on the  23rd of May, 1914 at Norwood SA. He was buried in West Terrace Cemetery.
He resided in  Adelaide and Norwood.

On top of that the only children born in South Australia to a Robert Hutton up to 1906 were those we know about born to Robert Joseph Downey and Catherine Downey.
Robert Joseph Hutton’s father on the marriage certificate is Robert Hutton……on John Thomas Hutton’s birth certificate transcription we have Robert Joseph Hutton as father, and Robert Thomas Hutton – father  as informant. (Robert Thomas looks like the grandfather of John Thomas to me.)

I personally agree with Ian that his other contact has got it wrong.



.....dee

[tropicalj]

So  Dee

what I  am  thinking you are saying  is  that  the Robert Joseph Hutton who married  Catherine Downie might not have been from Scotland?

Iif  that  is  the case  the other Hutton's in Blue Mountain might be related.

Jenn

[deeiluka]

No, Jenn. I'm not saying that at all.    
On the Birth Certificate transciption, it has that Robert Joseph Hutton was born in Edinburgh, Scotland.

I was just trying to show that Ian's other contact was wrong in saying that Robert Hutton was a pharmacist who died in South Australia in 1914.

A search of Scottish records might be good for the two Robert Huttons, father and son.

[tropicalj]

oh  dear  now totally  confused

Catherine, I think, married a Scot called Robert Hutton in Adelaide in 1857. [Robert Joseph Hutton, born Edinburgh 28 Jan 1831, coal miner, emigrated to Australia (gold miner) to Victoria – married Catherine Downey 15 Jan 1857 in Adelaide: had 7 children then went to Tasmania (Clerk/accountant). Robert Hutton died 10 Aug 1880 Emu Bay (Burnie) Tasmania]. In 1883 in Emu Bay Catherine remarried: to Barnard Conner (b. 1813) transportee? Conner was 20 years older than Catherine. So, the people mentioned in replies born Emu Bay must surely be descendants of Catherine.

this  quote from Ian  says  different  to  this

Jenn

[deeiluka]

Think we're both getting confused here, Jenn......   

I'm just backing up what Ian wrote and you quoted.

In an email to me Ian wrote that he's  been in contact with a Downey ancestor who lives in WA who is convinced that Robert Hutton, Catherine's husband, was a pharmacist rather than a miner.

I was just trying to back up Ian by proving that the Pharmacist Robert Hutton in South Australia was a different Robert Hutton and the WA contact is in error.

[tropicalj]

Now  I  understand Dee, I  could  only  go  on  what  was on  the board and  must admit never thought to check on  the pm's from  Ian.

Allways  go  to  show  the value of  certificate over heresay.

Jenn

[yelkcub]

Sorry, Dee and Jenn, that I haven't been able to get to my computer sooner: I'm afraid work got in the way! I think that you have, between you, shown conclusively that Catherine's husband was the miner, and that my previous contact in WA was mistaken in believing that he was the pharmacist. Easy mistake to make, though, and I quite agree with your view that there is no substitute for original records.
Robert Joseph Hutton died 10 Aug 1880, aged 49, Emu Bay (now called Burnie) Tasmania. In 1883 (22 May) in Emu Bay Catherine remarried: to Barnard Conner (b. 1813, 20 years older than Catherine). I haven't yet found Catherine's death, but I will!
Ian

[tropicalj]

I think that you have, between you, shown conclusively that Catherine's husband was the miner, and that my previous contact in WA was mistaken in believing that he was the pharmacist. Easy mistake to make, though, and I quite agree with your view that there is no substitute for original records.

All Dee's  work  here  I  only  added  to  the confusion ,  but Dee  proved  it  all.

Jenn