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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #297 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 08:25 BST (UK) »
Marriage as requested by Jenn

HUTTON Eva May
RICHARDS Harold
5 Apr 1915
At Beaconsfield   1915  Reg#15

She is alone on the electoral rolls but in 1936 is living at 24 Gardens Road, Moonah HD. At the same address - Grenville Sircombe RICHARDS, Labourer. 

Cannot see a death for Harold to 1930.

Now to confusion -

There is a grave for Eva May RICHARDS who died in 1918
Gravestone of Eva May RICHARDS . Died in 1918, aged 30yrs. Source: Latrobe Cemetery, General Section

and

Death
RICHARDS Eva May
Father Surname No recorded   Mother Name Not recorded
24 Dec 1918
Place Cotton St LATROBE   1918  Reg#789

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Thanks Cando  for taking time out of your very busy day  to  check  for a marriage
it is a bit of a  mystery  her being on  the  rolls  but also a death, I  guess a possibilty  of two different women.

Only a copy of  the death  certificate  might solve  the  puzzle.

Query for you Cando
is  there a birth for Eric Surcombe RICHARDS born 1916 in Ulverstone,enlisted Moonah  he is listed on  the NAA archives with his father as Grenville Richards,  the poor chap was a POW when  the vessell he was on was torpeoded by  the Japanese in WW2.

Am  wondering  if  perhaps  there is a mistranscription  with  Eva's husbands name if you follow my  drift.


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BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #298 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 09:06 BST (UK) »
I  checked to see if Grenvelle  had a brother Harold but no luck

RICHARDS   James Dickens  born Cornwall married Elizabeth CAMERON born Edingbrgh in Victoria in 1872 reg no 3600

Children to  this couple born in Harrietville

Sarah Jane Cameron born 1875 reg no 9554

Grenville Surcombe born 1883 reg no 9874

Silvanus Charles born 1887 reg no 3624

Isabella Annie  born 1880 reg no 23086

HOWEVER

http://www.srct.com.au/search.html
I  found these two burials

First names :  Grenville 
Surname :  RICHARDS 
Age :    73 
Date of death :   
Service type :  Burial 
Service date :  14-May-1959 
Last residence :    FERRY 
Grave location - 
  Cemetery :  Cornelian Bay 
  Area or denomination :  Church of England 
  Section : KK 
  Site number :  Number 219, 

First names :  Eva May 
Surname :  RICHARDS 
Age :    49 
Date of death :   
Service type :  Burial 
Service date :  16-Feb-1948 
Last residence :     
Grave location - 
  Cemetery :  Cornelian Bay 
  Area or denomination :  Church of England 
  Section : KK 
  Site number :  Number 219,   

So  they are buried together but still no  further advanced if it is  the same woma born Eva May Hutton.




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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #299 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi all, wow, things really do happen fast on this post!

I can offer the following info. It is anecdotal only at this stage (my mother) but I'll try to find corroboration in the next few hours (work permitting of course, ahem!)

Alberta Ann (JENKIN) died 17 Novermber 1938. She peeled the potatoes for lunch, then sat down in the kitchen chair and passed away. Very peaceful.

Eva May married a RICHARD (first name unknown). They had at least 3 children together, names are thought to be Clarence, Evelyn and Archibald. Clarence, or 'Clarrie' was, according to mum's recollections, brought up basically as an orphan, leading her to believe his parents died quite young.

Her younger sister, Minette Coral eloped to New Zealand (married name, CRABTREE) and was not welcomed into the family for some time again. Her re-entrance into the family was ca. 1926, hence my grandmother being named Menetta Coral.

Alberta Ann was actually named after the Royal Albert ship; she was born during the journey from UK to Australia. 25.01.1857

The HUTTON family ran the local grocery store in Weld St, Beaconsfield from ca. 1850 to 1950(?). They also had a bakery for a while.

Cheers,

Sarah
Hutton
Downey
Barrett
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #300 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:21 BST (UK) »
Marriage as given previously and I think there is a mistranscription for the husband's name.  On the births regs the father is named as Arnold.

HUTTON Eva May
RICHARDS Harold 
5 Apr 1915
At Beaconsfield   1915  Reg#15

Births to 1919
RICHARDS Arnold Clarence
Father Arnold RICHARDS  Mother  Eva May RICHARDS nee Hutton
28 Aug 1917
At Latrobe   Reg#2740

RICHARDS Evelyn Dorothy
Father Arnold RICHARDS  Mother Eva May RICHARDS nee Hutton
6 Dec 1918
At Latrobe   Reg#1805

There is no birth for a Archibald RICHARDS in Tasmania to 1919.  Did Eva May HUTTON die on the 24 Dec 1918 following the birth of Evelyn on the 6th Dec 1918?

According to the indexes a Grenville Liscombe RICHARDS was married to Eva May SMITH.  So that eliminates the two burials found by Jenn.

Cheers
Cando


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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #301 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:27 BST (UK) »
More info: Alberta Ann's brother, William Trembath JENKIN, is buried in Charter's Towers (death cert. ref. 1898/C2525). He died age 43.
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #302 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:33 BST (UK) »
thanks Cando,  that seems  to clarify  those burials, what a coincidence but it does explain  the electoral rolls.

Plus  gives Baardsgirl info for Eva May Huttonn ;D

Now  what happened to Harold Richards maybe WW1?

Jenn
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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #303 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:35 BST (UK) »
Australian Electoral Rolls
1914, 1919  Tasmania
RICHARDS  Arnold   Moriarty   Labourer

1928
RICHARDS Arnold  63 Galvin Street, Launceston East  Storeman

1936
RICHARDS Arnold  33 Galvin Street, Launceston East  Storeman
RICHARDS Ethel Maud  33 Galvin Street, Launceston East  HD

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #304 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:46 BST (UK) »
HUTTON family store (run by A.A. HUTTON nee JENKIN) and HUTTON residence, Beaconsfield Tasmania

CERTIFICATE OF TITLE VOL 1022 FOLIO 23
WELD ST, BEACONSFIELD
ONE PERCH AND NINE TENTHS OF A PERCH
ORIGINALLY GRANTED TO ARTHUR EVAN & JOHN CHARLES FERGUSON
25 AUGUST 1861

CERTIFICATE OF TITLE VOL 1031 FOLIO 37
ONE WOOD & THIRTY-TWO PERCHES AND THREE TENTHS OF A PERCH
ORIGINALLY GRANTED TO CHARLES AMMIEL HOLDING WILLIAMSON
WILLIAM DIBBS & THOMAS EDWARD WOODMAN
7 NOVEMBER 1861
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #305 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 11:46 BST (UK) »
Marriage

RICHARDS
Arnold
FISHER Ethel Maud
24 Feb 1921-
At Burnei  Reg#202

Could possibly be his birth...other Arnold's have 2nd given name.

RICHARDS Arnold
Father/ Joseph John  Mother CRAWFORD Emma Eliza
27 Jan 1893
At Mersey
Reg#1469/1893

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