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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #234 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 09:36 GMT (UK) »
a further death

 MCNICOL  Margt Hamilton aged 42 at Watta in 1914 reg no 7743
Father: Mcnicol Wm
Mother: Eliza Margt HUTTON


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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #235 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone -
I’m once again asking for a little help with the Australian end of my Page family research. Recently a very kind lady in WA sent me some really interesting material, including some extracts from a notebook James Page kept in 1876. One entry – 23 October 1876 – speaks of the arrival in Adelaide on board the ‘South Australian’ of James’s niece Julia Ann Robinson (who went on to marry John Ferguson at St Luke's Adelaide, James Page acting as witness) and a Mr and Mrs West. Apparently in later life James Page’s daughter Helen (b. 1854, later Helen Hogg, of Mitcham) used to speak of ‘Minnie and Trixie West’ who may well have been relations. It seems more than likely that Minnie and Trixie (possibly Beatrice?) West were the daughters of the Mr and Mrs West who arrived in Australia in 1876.  I am keen to trace the West family, if I can, back through the UK census, and would love to discover the Christian names of Mr and Mrs West. I was thinking that if and when Minnie and Trixie married, their parents’ names might be recorded. If you have time, I would be grateful if you could see if these names appear in any of the records you have access to.
I hope all is well with your own researches
Best wishes from a very wintry Cornwall
Ian

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #236 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there Ian

a scan of  the indexs  revels only a couple of births for a Beatrice West (no Beatrix)

one in particular did catch my eye

no marriage in  South Australia for  the couple though

Anthony Frederick West and Francis ROBINSON had the following children in SA

Alice 20/4/1883 at Ardrossan  305/91
Beatrice Maud 5/10/1885 at Ardrossan 361/408
James William 13/3/1881 at Adrdrossan 258/356
Marion Frances 9/8/1879 at Ardrossan 226/409

I am wondering if Minnie was Marion Frances?

 Looks to be  their marriage in England
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar   Downham in Cambridgeshire, Norfolk   
 Frances Robinson 1871    Downham  Cambridgeshire, Norfolk   
Anthony Frederick West 1871    Downham  Cambridgeshire, Norfolk 

a  quick look at  the 1871 census finds them both to have been born in Middlesex and he is a Comedian and she is an actress (giggling away to myself) Frances was aged 21 and  they were boarders.

I  also note on  the 1851 census that Julia Ann Robinson does have a sister Frances born 1850 so am now wondering indeed  if  Mrs West was her sister, what do you  know of  this Ian?




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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #237 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 22:40 GMT (UK) »
One entry – 23 October 1876 – speaks of the arrival in Adelaide on board the ‘South Australian’ of James’s niece Julia Ann Robinson (who went on to marry John Ferguson at St Luke's Adelaide, James Page acting as witness) and a Mr and Mrs West.

The passenger list of the South Australian should detail the WESTs.

There were obviously unassisted passengers as well as assisted on the South Australian when it arrived in Adelaide on 23 Oct 1876. 

On the South Australian Archives website you can search for ship or assisted passenger name.  I have searched and neither Julia's or the West names are listed so they would have been unassisted passengers.

http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/
> Search collection - top of page
> Searching - left menu
> Passenger list searching - left menu

The SA State library would have the passenger list...what about a request for a lookup.  You have the surname and ship and date of arrival...
 http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?area_id=15&nav_id=669

Cheers
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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #238 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Jenn..the death of Frances WEST b.c1849

WEST Frances
2 Nov 1936  87 years  Status Widow
Relative Anthony Frederick WEST [Deceased Husband]
Residence Aldgate  Death Place Aldgate
Ade 585/4699

He died in 1921 aged  73 years.

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #239 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 23:09 GMT (UK) »
thanks for adding  that in Cando, I  feel  that I am on  the right track but will have to wait for Ian to confirm any details

kind thoughts Jenn
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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #240 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 08:24 GMT (UK) »
It's just after 8 am here - a beautiful dawn, and some interesting messages from you all those miles away. You never disappoint! Many thanks - I'm going to make it my morning's work to look into what you have discovered in the SA archives. On the face of it your suggestion that Mrs West (Frances) was Julia's sister, so a niece of Henry Page, sounds very likely indeed. I had noticed that in the 1871 census Julia was listed as an actress. Wonder if she ever 'trod the boards' in Aus?
With best wishes (and a second pot of coffee)
Ian

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #241 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »
South Australian Electoral Roll 1909

WEST
Anthony Frederick, First Avenue, Joslin Park   No occupation given
WEST Frances, First Avenue, Joslin Park   No occupation given

Doesn't help very much :(

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #242 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there Ian

So  Julia  was also an actress like her "sister" Frances?

another link to your Henry Page

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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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