Author Topic: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century  (Read 91153 times)

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #171 on: Thursday 20 November 08 05:36 GMT (UK) »
on the 1914 Electoral Rolls  for Victoria

living at 17 Marshall Street, Flemington

Mary Victoria Harris home duties

Lionel Harris agent

so  searched a bit further

and also living at  the same address

Catherine Connor  home  duties.



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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #172 on: Thursday 20 November 08 05:47 GMT (UK) »
Oh well done, Jenn and Raylen.

Catherine Hutton Connor's death certificate could be interesting, though it obviously doesn't have her parents on it.



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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #173 on: Thursday 20 November 08 06:14 GMT (UK) »
a bit more

Rose Vivian HARRIS married Norman Andrew Johnson in 1923 in Victoria reg no 3845

deaths in Victoria

Henry Lionel JOHNSON died aged 42 in 1967 at Mildura
father Norman Andrew Johnson  mother Vivien Rose Harris

Norman Andrew  JOHNSON died aged 56 in 1957 at Mildura  reg no 22494
father Henry Albert Johnson mother Emily Edith Lehman

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #174 on: Thursday 20 November 08 07:06 GMT (UK) »
Genies,
Aren't you amazing......Catherine's circle is now complete. Many thanks.  :) :) :)

I have to assume that if she was living with her daughter, then Barnard Connor had already died.

 I will pass this information on to a couple of rellies I didn't know I had until recently who have asked if I knew when and where she died.

Is there any point in getting her death certificate if her parents aren't listed......I haven't seen an old Victorian death certificate to know what information is on these certificates.

Again, many thanks.......I am so chuffed to complete Catherine's life journey.

Susie ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire


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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #175 on: Thursday 20 November 08 09:19 GMT (UK) »
The Victorian system of registration is one of the best in the world, there is plenty of useful information on both the certificates and the indexes.

What you'll find on a Victorian certificate of birth, death or marriage:

Births
Date and place of birth; name of child and whether present or not; name of parents (including mother's maiden name); occupation of parents; ages and birthplace of parents; date and place of marriage of parents; previous children of their marriage noting living or deceased; signature, description and address of the person who gave the information; names of witnesses; date and place of registation.

Deaths
Date and place of death; name and surname; occupation of the deceased; sex and age; cause of death, duration of illness, medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased; name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname; signature, description and address of the person who gave the information; signature of deputy registrar, date and where registered, when and where buried, undertaker whom certified; name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial; place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian colonies or states (stating which), name of spouse, place of marriage, age at marriage; names and ages of children of the deceased.

Marriages
Date and place of marriage; name and surnames; conjugal condition, whether bachelor or spinster, widow or widower, stating date of decease of former wife or husband; children by each former marriage; birthplace; occupation; age; residence (present and usual); parent's names of each party (including mother's maiden name) and occupation of father; signatures of the parties and witnesses; signature of Minister. Prior to 1963 the date of termination of previous marriages of the parties is also shown.



With a death certificate I  may add that  the information is only as god  as  the informants knowledge.  If  you  get a certificate at leastyou get a burial site too.

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #176 on: Thursday 20 November 08 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear Jenn,
Many thanks for such wonderful information. You totally convinced me to purchase a death certificate which I have just done online, and will await it's arrival by post with much anticipation.

Whilst I was online, I had a look for Barnard Connor.......he doesn't apppear to have died in Victoria between 1880 and 1920........wonder if he died in Tasmania after 1899 when the online records cut out?

Cheers
Susie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #177 on: Thursday 20 November 08 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone - I've been prevented with pursuing my Pages recently by the need to earn my crust! I just wanted to say well done indeed for tracking down Catherine's records - as you say, knowing that she ended her days living in Victoria with her daughter brings closure to a life filled with incident: she must almost have been a walking history of the early years in Australia. To think of her, escaping from the life her mother led, abandoned to the workhouse and an early grave ... then a shipwreck, a spell in Tasmania and finally back over the water to Victoria.
When I have had time to spare I have been trying (so far with limited success) to try to identify Henry Page's brothers. [for new readers Henry Page was the father of Mary Teresa Page who was Catherine Downey/ Hutton/ Connor's mother]
I will be sure to let you know of any progress
Best wishes
Ian

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #178 on: Thursday 20 November 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Dear Ian,
Along with a spell in Adelaide, then taking 2 young children to the wilds of the Victorian goldfields and having another 5 children there before trekking across the water to Tasmania.......that is a "big" life. It certainly is a life I could not contemplate living.

Let's hope we can find out about Barnard and what happened to him.

Can this scene of the mine in Waratah be any further from London????

Cheers

Susie

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert Hutton/ Catherine Downey late 19th century
« Reply #179 on: Thursday 20 November 08 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Dear Jenn,
Many thanks for such wonderful information. You totally convinced me to purchase a death certificate which I have just done online, and will await it's arrival by post with much anticipation.

Hi Susie....on Vic BDM you have the option to purchase for $17.50 and immediately download the image.  Bit of a trap at times ;) ;D    Next time ;D

Cheers
Cando
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