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Offline julieann1

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Mizpah Soldier - date please
« on: Monday 29 September 08 15:59 BST (UK) »
Can anyone give me a date for this soldier?   Also would like to know what his regiment was, and what his medals were for?  Have tried enlarging the medals and collar badges but the detail is just not there.
Thanks in advance
julie
BELL;TWEEDIE;PITTILLO/PATTILLO;WATSON;JOHNSTONE;PALMER;MOFFAT:DOBIE;BEATTIE:-Dumfrieshire<br />HYSLOP;MANSON;CURRIE;JAMIESON;BEATTIE:-Ayr<br />HOOKER;DYSON;SEABROOKE;DYER;DREWELL;STOCKWELL;CRIPPS;-London<br />DEVOS:London, Belguim
BENDALL-Bristol<br />WOODEN/WOODIN;JARRETT-Surrey<br />MURCH;HARRIS;POPE:-Devon QUARM-Devon,London,Anywhere<br />RUMBLE;HIBBERD;-Wilts
MARTIN - Dorset,Somerset;
PITTUCK/PITTOCK:-Suffolk.
WILSON;BARNEY;WINDES/WINDERS;ELLIS - Yorkshire;MARSTON;HALLAM - Notts;

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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 September 08 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hello Julie
I would put a link to this on the Armed Forces board they are the military experts.
Just highlight the address bar>right click>copy & paste it into a new topic over there,also a close up of his collar insignia may help.At first glance these look like Baor War campaign medals.
Jim
Edit:
Sorry missed the bit about the close up.If you have a name etc.someone may be able to find military details.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 September 08 19:45 BST (UK) »
these 2.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 September 08 22:11 BST (UK) »
thanks Jim. One of the medals looks like a South Africa medal.  Don't know he is name. Possibly Sheppard and probably came from Wiltshire.
Best detail i can manage:
Does it look like both those medal ribbons have stripes?
BELL;TWEEDIE;PITTILLO/PATTILLO;WATSON;JOHNSTONE;PALMER;MOFFAT:DOBIE;BEATTIE:-Dumfrieshire<br />HYSLOP;MANSON;CURRIE;JAMIESON;BEATTIE:-Ayr<br />HOOKER;DYSON;SEABROOKE;DYER;DREWELL;STOCKWELL;CRIPPS;-London<br />DEVOS:London, Belguim
BENDALL-Bristol<br />WOODEN/WOODIN;JARRETT-Surrey<br />MURCH;HARRIS;POPE:-Devon QUARM-Devon,London,Anywhere<br />RUMBLE;HIBBERD;-Wilts
MARTIN - Dorset,Somerset;
PITTUCK/PITTOCK:-Suffolk.
WILSON;BARNEY;WINDES/WINDERS;ELLIS - Yorkshire;MARSTON;HALLAM - Notts;


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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 September 08 23:03 BST (UK) »
I'd say both ribbons definitely have stripes, the one on the left is more difficult to see because they're all reasonably dark but I can make them out.  Looks like the  medal ribbons Jim posted  :)

Even though there isn't a lot of detail, I think the Armed Forces boys and girls will be able to tell you something about the collar things, so it can't hurt to post a link on their board and ask them to take a look.

Cheers
Prue

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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 08:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks.
I have posted it on the Armed Forces board.  South Africa Medals and a rough date   :)  Now, if I could be sure of his name.. ::)
BELL;TWEEDIE;PITTILLO/PATTILLO;WATSON;JOHNSTONE;PALMER;MOFFAT:DOBIE;BEATTIE:-Dumfrieshire<br />HYSLOP;MANSON;CURRIE;JAMIESON;BEATTIE:-Ayr<br />HOOKER;DYSON;SEABROOKE;DYER;DREWELL;STOCKWELL;CRIPPS;-London<br />DEVOS:London, Belguim
BENDALL-Bristol<br />WOODEN/WOODIN;JARRETT-Surrey<br />MURCH;HARRIS;POPE:-Devon QUARM-Devon,London,Anywhere<br />RUMBLE;HIBBERD;-Wilts
MARTIN - Dorset,Somerset;
PITTUCK/PITTOCK:-Suffolk.
WILSON;BARNEY;WINDES/WINDERS;ELLIS - Yorkshire;MARSTON;HALLAM - Notts;

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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 15:44 BST (UK) »
closer up.The bars are the names of the campaigns he was involved in.Ladysmith,Spion Kop etc.
jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 October 08 18:55 BST (UK) »
Hello, I believe from my days in the jewellery making, repair trade, that Mizpah, was a Hebrew Phrase for. The Lord be between you and me, when we are absent, one from another. This is a 50 year old memory.

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Deuceanarf.


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Re: Mizpah Soldier - date please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 October 08 23:00 BST (UK) »
Genesis 31:49 (King James version)   "The Lord watch between you and me when we are absent one from the other" A heartfelt prayer for the soldier from his sweetheart who really wanted him to come home safe and sound.   It may be old fashioned, but it is still an admirable way to end a letter to a friend or a member of the family. We have been using it in letters for more years than I can remember.
My journey in search of my roots begins with these names. And every one I find creates two more questions.
Finlay Anderson Laurie Sneddon Allan Douglas Currie Smith Torrance Hendrie Russell McLatchie McLeod Collins Prentice
Why did I not start this search 40 years ago?