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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 September 08 07:16 BST (UK) »

 Who are Sam Cranchs parents ?

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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 September 08 08:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Bellbird

Samuel Raymond George CRANCH - died 19 November 1987 - aged 68 (born circa 1919).

Cemetery record here ...

http://property.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cemetery/by_surname.asp


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Added:    Manukau Memorial Gardens (Althea's posting earlier) - have record for the cremation of Samuel R.G. CRANCH on 23 November 1987:
His ashes were buried 25 February 1988 at Pukerimu Lawn Cemetery (details at above link):



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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 September 08 10:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lucy 2  for your efforts.  Answers to your ?s  While remember  - who is Sam's parents, if what is on the board is  right the same a Freds and that i don't know, would like to know.  I think we have the right folk, in Frederick George married Edith Annie James in 1913 and Basil Ian married Marie Ailsa Webb 1938.(Name Webb reminds me there is more to do on Mum's Mum's side, they are Webbs which are causing a some problems or playing hard to find.  The photo Studio name is hard to read, looks like it was written in pencil, try Deb then possibly 3 more letters Auckland.  You asked what the clothing looked like in Fred's young family group. It looks of older style. His collar looks a stiff upright one with the tie visible all round, he also wears a button hole in his suit jacket. Her hair is short, shorter than the toddlers, she is dressed in long sleeved blouse and skirt with fine lines down it.  Older boy Basil has blonde bushy hair and 3/4 length sleeve romper suit without waist, socks and shoes with strap across. (Basil) .    Baby Eric sitting on Mum's knee appears to have a lacey collar on his top and sort of short length pants.  The wife's facial feature appears similar to the later photo when children are grown up.  Regardless of the first Basil's entry being submitted I feel it is the right one as parent's names tie up.  You mentioned a check of Birth and Death Indexes - you've got a real novice here - how do you do that?  Re Samuel George Cranch and the WW1 reference  of 1914-1919 in the

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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 September 08 03:03 BST (UK) »
It might be a good idea to put these families into perspective before we waste time chasing our tails :)

Mention has been made on this thread (and another) of the William CRANCH/Mary GOLDSWORTHY family - they are not in this line at all. If anyone wants info on that line - let me know.

From my research so far ( and I welcome corrections) this particular line  is best described, briefly, as:
Generation One
1.   William Cranch, born 1796 in South Milton, Devon, (son of Joseph Cranch and Mary Quarm) baptized 8 Jan 1797 in South Milton, Devon, died Qtr 3 1871 in West Alvington, Devon, occupation Labourer & sexton.
   He married Maria Hodge, married 4 June 1827 in Diptford, Devon.

            (eldest Child of eight)
           i.   Samuel Cranch born 1827, baptized 11 Nov 1827 in West Alvington, Devon. He married (1) Sarah Jane Gill, married Qtr 4 1852 in South Huish, Devon. He married (2) Ann Elizabeth Gillard, married 1877, born 1827 in East Portlemouth, Devon, died Qtr 1 1888.
           

Generation Two

   Samuel Cranch born 1827 married (1) Sarah Jane Gill

            Children:

           i.   William Gill Cranch born Qtr 1 1853.
           ii.   Samuel Cranch born Qtr  1 1855.
            iii.   Susan Gill Cranch, born Qtr 1 1855, baptized 1 Apl 1855 in South Huish, Devon.
            iv.   Mary Jane Cranch, born 1857, baptized 27 Sept 1857 in South Huish, Devon.
            v.   John William Cranch, born Qtr 1 1860, baptized 27 May 1860 in South Huish, Devon.
            vi.   Sarah Elizabeth Cranch, born Qtr 1 1860, baptized 27 May 1860 in South Huish, Devon.
            vii.   George Wills Gill Cranch, born Qtr 2 1862, baptized 3 Aug 1862 in South Huish, Devon, died Qtr 3 1883.
            viii.   Maria Cranch, born 1865, baptized 22 Jan 1865 in South Huish, Devon.

   
Generation Three

   William Gill Cranch, born Qtr 1 1853, baptized 3 Apl 1853 in South Huish, Devon, occupation Carter, Ag Lab, Coal worker.
   He married Sarah Ann Hales, married Qtr 3 1876, born 1855 in Kingswear, Dev.

            Children:

            i.   Sarah Maria Cranch, born Qtr 1 1877 in Dartmouth, Devon, occupation 1891 - Servant.
            ii.   William Henry Cranch, born Qtr 2 1880 in Kingsbridge or Dartmouth, Devon.
           iii.   Frederick George Cranch born Qtr 3 1881, died 16 Nov 1956 in NZ, occupation Sailmaker, then Machinist.
            He married Edith Anne James, married 1913 in New Zealand, died 25 March 1972 in NZ.
            iv.   Caroline Mabel Cranch, born Qtr 3 1883 in Dartmouth, Devon.
            v.   Mary Grace Cranch, born Qtr 2 1885 in Dartmouth, Devon.
           vi.   Edward John Cranch born Qtr 3 1887.
vii.   Samuel Gill Cranch, born Qtr 4 1889 in Dartmouth, Devon, buried 1 July 1962 in NZ, buried in Waikumete Cemetery, NZ, occupation Farmer.
viii.   Bertha Florence Cranch, born Qtr 4 1891 in Dartmouth, Devon
ix.   Minnie Maud Cranch, born Qtr 1 1895 in Dartmouth, Devon

   Samuel Cranch, born Qtr  1 1855 in South Huish, Devon, baptized 1 Apl 1855 in South Huish, Devon, died 31 Jan 1919 in New Zealand, occupation 1871 -  Ag Lab, buried in Hamilton East Cemetery, Hamilton.
   He married Elizabeth Webb, married 1 May 1880 in Wellington, New Zealand, died 8 Jan 1940 buried in Hamilton.

            Children:

            i.   Thomas Norman Cranch, born 23 Sept 1896 in Carterton, Wellington, NZ, died 1 Jan 1973.
            ii.   Elizabeth Ethel Cranch, born Sept 1881 in Wellington, NZ, died 1945.
            She married Frank Roland Harrison, married 1904 in Wellington, NZ.
         iii.   William Samuel John Cranch born Mar 1884, died 13 Jan1959.
            He married Ada Florence Reynolds, married 29 Oct 1910 in Te Aroha, Auckland, NZ
            iv.   Florence Beatrice Cranch, born Dec 1885 in Wellington, NZ.
            She married Alfred Dalton Fielder, married 1916 in Hamilton, NZ.
           v.   Lily Myrtle Cranch, born Dec 1887 in Wellington, NZ.
            She married William Bowring, married 1912 in Wellington, NZ.
            vi.   Ida Alma Cranch, born Sept 1890 in Carterton, Wellington, NZ.
            She married Vivian Hazeldean Knight, married 1914 in Hamilton, NZ.
           vii.   Harold George Cranch born 1892,  died 1976.
            He married Mary Gertrude Edge.
            viii.   Annie Muriel Cranch, born Jan 1891 in Carterton, Wellington, NZ, died 1991.
            She married William Robert Norman Warren, married 1921 in Auckland, NZ.

This last child baffles me - it is an IGI( ;)) entry. Bellbird mentions that the final child is a Vera CRANCH who married a BOND. Would love clarification on the Annie Muriel/Vera dilemma.
Cranch - Devon; London; Anywhere.
Moore - Honiton, Dev.


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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 28 September 08 03:38 BST (UK) »
A birthdate for a VERA CRANCH is
12 Oct 1904
attended Belvedere school Wairarapa NZ, parent listed as SAMUEL CRANCH
Looks like she may not have married or married then, it has spinster but marriage date also: VERA EVELYN MONA CRANCH, land transmission document 24 June 1942
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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 September 08 03:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, Althea.
Cranch - Devon; London; Anywhere.
Moore - Honiton, Dev.

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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 28 September 08 04:26 BST (UK) »
Wow .... Cranchresearcher !

Welcome to RootsChat.    :)      Great information !

Just adding link to Bellbird's previous thread  (which contains references to "Vera").

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=325476.msg2063898


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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 September 08 04:47 BST (UK) »
Generation Three

vii.   Samuel Gill CRANCH

(adding marriage)  >>

Samuel Gill CRANCH
Violet Beatrice HUGHES
Year - 1920    (Folio #  04951)

(Violet Beatrice CRANCH - also buried at Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland) :


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Re: Basil Cranch Family
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 28 September 08 04:56 BST (UK) »
(for Bellbird)


Link to Auckland Museum (Cenotaph database)

....   record for Samuel George CRANCH


http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/basicsearch.aspx?Dataset=cenotaph