Mary Ann Bishop,born Penhurst,Completed

[omega 1]

Hi Valda

The Cert i have for George is the correct one  but got myself in a muddle.
I have young George Nelson Mitchell on the 1901 census,in the Royal Navy,in port,Bermada.We have his Service records.
We have his Death Cert,28th June 1930,at Barming Heath Hospital,Chatham.He had been a Rigger at the Dock Yards.
Think he was a bit of a Lad after reading cause of Death (yikes)

The only way of solving Mary Ann is hopefully a Marriage can be found.If not will have to give up

Thank-you
Omega

[Valda]

Depends when she died and if she gives you another shot at her birthplace on the 1911 census.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census/

Regards

Valda

[omega 1]

From what i have read,hopefully they start releasing 1911 next year


Lets keep everything crossed,we are all waiting

Omega

[omega 1]

Hi All

I now have the 1911 census.

George Nelson Mitchell,stated he was a Widower & been married 37 years.

I still cant find a marraige & even worse cant find a Death for Mary Ann,
using Mitchell or Bishop.

Looking back at the 1901,there is a Brother with them,Harry Campbell,aged 40,from Herstmonceux.



I then looked to see if a could find a marriage between a Bishop & Campbell & drew a blank.

I am now wondering if Mary Ann`s Dad died & Mum remarried.

I am going round in for ever decreasing circles.

Its a nightmare

Omega

[flavia]

Hello,

Have you solved your Mary Ann Bishop birth record yet?  If not, try loooking at Battle Dec 1852 2b 39.

Regards
Flavia

[Valda]

The Battle birth registration is the candidate already discussed in detail on the first page of this topic.

Mary Anne Bishop
Christening:  26 SEP 1852   Salehurst, Sussex
Father:  Samuel Bishop 
Mother:  Mary


Harry Campbell  may very well be a boarder not a brother (the relationship should be to the head of household) and this is a census enumerator's mistake. On the 1891 and 1881 censuses he is in Hastings married to Maria born Warbleton or Whatlington. A slightly younger 'Henry' Campbell born Warbleton is with parents Thomas and Dinah in Sandhurst Kent in 1871.


Mary Ann and George may never have married. Some people just didn't get around to it. It was much more common than people think. There may have been a reason for it such as a previous marriage by either partner that broke down, or once they had begun living together it would have been to problematical in later life to have married and admitted all those years they were not married and the children were actually illegitimate.

Mary Ann's death may not have occurred in Hastings if she died while visiting any of her children or other relatives. Do you know where all the grown up children were between 1901 and 1911? It might then be worth searching for any likely death registrations in those areas.

The most likely Mary Ann Mitchell death registrations (and of course her death could just have been registered as Mary) appear to be the 1905 one in Steyning Sussex and the 1902 in Brentford Middlesex.


Regards

Valda

[omega 1]

Hi Valda

Thank-you for all your suggestions & look ups you have done.

With a marriage for George Nelson & Mary Ann,we were just clutching at straws..


We have discussed at length possible scenarios as to where Mary Ann died IE visiting children.

I think i`ll have to wait until the 1911 is hopefully put on main site.

On the 1901 i found 1 son in the Navy in Bermuda & another one on Holiday curtesy of HM Navel Prison ,Bodmin,Cornwall .

So i need to find them .

The Surname Mitchell in Hastings is common,so i have to be careful of getting things right.

King Regards

Omega

[omega 1]

Hello everyone.
UPDATE
Regarding Mary Ann Bishop.To cut a long  very story short,she changed her name .

She confessed to a daughter about her name before she died,have Death Cert.Her name,Charity Campbell.

SFHG have  just updated the Baptisumns again.
Yesterday I found her Baptisumn in PEASMARSH,could`nt believe my eyes

omega