Mary Ann Bishop,born Penhurst,Completed

[omega 1]

Hi
Hoping someone has access to Penhusrt Parish Records.

Mary Ann was born c1854.Would love to know who Mum & Dad were.
Mary Ann had illigimate son George Nelson Mitchell in 1875,no Dads name.Born in Hastings.
On the 1881 census,Mary Ann is with son & man also George Nelson Mitchell,claiming to to be Wife. Living in Hastings.I have them on 1891 & 1901.

I have searched full Birth Index for her birth,nothing.
I had Hastings Register Office do a search for a marriage,nothing.
I also seached full index for marriage from 1875 to 1901,nothing.
Grateful for any help
Omega

[sillgen]

Hi
When you say her son is illegitimate does that mean you have his birth certificate?    Is her name Mitchell then?  Or is it Nelson?  There are several Nelson Mitchell births in Hastings on FreeBMD.
What do the birth certificates for the later children say?    They should give her maiden name.   Oh, I see that in 1891 George is shown as George N M Bishop.  Still shown as the son of the elder George.  Is that her maiden name??
Andrea

[omega 1]

Hi Andrea.
Yes,i do have the Birth Cert.
George Nelson Mitchell, name of son, where a fathers name should be its Blank.Mothers name Mary Ann Bishop.
She never married the father who was also George Nelson Mitchell,they just lived together.
 We do have another birth cert,OHs Grandfather 1889.Mary Ann Mitchell,formerly Bishop.But no marriage has ever been found.

Omega

[sillgen]

It is a long shot but could Mary Ann have been married before so the marriage would not be as Bishop?   My first thought also was to wonder whether it was Penshurst Kent rather than the Sussex Penhurst. 
Andrea

[omega 1]

Just double checked the census i have.All 3 say Penhurst ,Sussex.
I also searched full index for marriage of George Nelson Mitchell & just George Mitchell from 1875 to 1901,nothing.
I have`nt been able to find her on the 1861 or 1871 census.I have looked through all the surrouding parishes.

She`s a complete mystery.
I think a trip to Lewis Archives will hopefully sort her out.
Thank-you for your suggestions
Omega

[swebby]

Re the 1881 census

There are two other children?
William aged 2 born Hastings
Alice aged 4 born Hastings

Maybe a look at their birth certs may reveal something.

Regards
Sean

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

If this is the ref for George's birth then he is registrered as BISHOP with the forenames George Nelson M (Mitchell),

George Nelson M BISHOP    Sep Q 1875    Hastings    2b  22

whereas it looks like Alice E was registered as MITCHELL,

Alice Elizabeth MITCHELL    Sep Q  1877    Hastings    2b  15


Not sure how that helps  but it might narrow down marriage if there was one 


Regards
Daisy

[omega 1]

Hi Daisy
I have a copy of the origanal Birth Certificate
23rd July 1875,12,Courthouse Street,All Saints,Hastings.
Name of child George Nelson Mitchell,no dads name,mother Mary Ann Bishop,Domestic Servant.

She has had me tearing my hair out for 3 years,but thank-you .
Kind Regards
Omega

[omega 1]

Hi Daisy
Having looked myself there is clearly something not right with the Birth Cert we have.
I will apply for the one you found from GRO on Monday.
Thank-you for pointing out the info.

Kind Regards
Omega