Southwick Baptism record look up

[Royalgaz]

Hi Roy

I have looked and looked but can not see any Virtue on the 1841 census. It's a possibility that he is illegitimate I guess, wouldn't be the first in my family.

Why couldn't they all just show on the 1841 census for me and make my life easier LOL.

Regards Gary

[Roy G]

It may be money down the drain, but what if you purchased a copy of Virtue Martin's death cert? That should tell you where she was in 1843, who reported her death and perhaps even a relative's name.  From that you could go back to the 1841 census and try to search for her again.  It could be that Virtue wasn't quite as virtuous as her name suggests and as it is now clear she never married, she may still have lived with someone and for the sake of Victorian decency, just used their surname unofficially.
Roy G

[janan]

Hi Gary

I've searched every which way for Virtue in 1841 but no luck. Like Roy I was wondering if her death cert might help.
I was also pondering whether Virtue was known under a different first name, there seems to be only one possible lady of right age and in right area -  living Barrows Hill Henfield is Sarah Martin 45 Housekeeper born in county with Richard Martin 45 Farmer. Shame the 41 doesn't give relationships but given Sarah's occupation I'm thinking they are more likely to be brother and sister than husband and wife. Or it could just be wishful thinking 
Will check for  them in 51.

Jan

Was right on one count they were brother and sister but Sarah is still alive in 51

[sillgen]

Another to put into the melting pot.
1841 HO107 F1/6 p 7 Steyning
John Martin 73 ag lab
Virtue Martin 70 both born in county. 
Presumably the death certificate is for this Virtue?
Andrea

[Royalgaz]

Thank you for trying Jan, I was going to order the death cert at next payday (just bought four certs last week and paying for holiday in couple of weeks, so bit expensive at moment).

Have just seen updated post by Andrea, that could be her.

Andrea how did you find them? I tried everything...

Regards Gary

[sillgen]

I just put Virtue in - no surname.
Andrea

[janan]

I just put Virtue in - no surname.
Andrea

So did I but still no sign 
The vagaries of search engines

Sadly looking like this one is Virtue junior's Mum and Dad

Jan

[Royalgaz]

Hi Jan, I did the same thing and didn't come up with anything, but Andrea has advised me she found her through Find My Past which have better transcriptions sometimes.

I am so confused now as to who is who I will have to draw up another seperate tree of all these relations we think may connect somehow to try and keep track and hopefully one day solve this mystery.

Regards Gary

[janan]

Hi Gary

Just a few more bits and pieces which may connect someday

I had a look for baptisms after 1795 for children of a John and Sarah - I couldn't see any only children of a Thomas and Sarah, whether this is the same couple and John was known as Thomas I really don't know.

John son of Thomas and Sarah Upton baptised 18th Nov 1798 could be your John. No sign of Henry.

Found these burials which could be relevant

Sarah Upton of Southwick age 54 buried 9th Jan 1829
John Upton of Southwick age 83 buried Sep 1852

Also checked baptism of Virtue Martin's brother

Richard son of John Martin Smuggler and Virtue his wife was baptised 26th Oct 1800

Interesting occupation!

Jan