Southwick Baptism record look up

[Royalgaz]

Hello Roy

I have traced that census record you refer to and I think that possibly could be the father too, but that line has become confusing too, as at one stage it looks like he is with a wife called Frances (who someone managed to find a marriage record in 1833 for, and they said the additional information said he was a widow). So if that is my John Upton did he get married three times? Becoming even more of a puzzle! Possibly it is the wrong John and I could be following the wrong line.....

Interesting fact about the Lucy Adam Upton, will see if I can trace anything on that line. Thanks.

Gary

[janan]

Hi Gary

I will have a look in the Southwick registers - hopefully on Monday

Jan

[Royalgaz]

Thank you Jan, that would be great.

This is a very puzzling family, so be interesting to find out what the truth is 

Thanks Regards Gary

[janan]

Hi Gary
I can confirm the extracted baptism entry as correct and add a little extra info

22nd Feb 1818 Richard Adams Upton parents John Upton and Virtue abode Southwick Occupation of father Labourer born Jan 15th 1818

I couldn't see any other baptisms for this couple and no burial for Virtue Upton/Martin 1818-1828. No sign of a John Upton to Virtue marriage. The John Upton to Rhoda marriage states he is a bachelor. The baptism for Virtue Martin gives no extra info.

Jan

[janan]

In Southwick in 1841 there is this couple, could be the John and Sarah (Adams) who married in 1795

Green Southwick
John Upton 70 Ag Lab
Sarah Upton 55
Both born in county
HO107/1096/8/6 Pg11

Can't see him again till 1861 when he is a Widow


The only other Upton in Southwick in 1841 is
Henry Upton 30 Labourer born in county

From later censuses he appears to be the one who marries a Maria so I'm guessing he is son to John and Sarah and so possible brother to your John. Your possible John is in New Shoreham in 1841

Church Rd New Shoreham

John Upton 45 Labourer
Frances do 50
Benjamin Latimer 25
Louise do 20
Richard Chambers 6
HO107/1096/6/41 Pg22

Wondering if he is also a son of John and Sarah? Will check registers again tomorrow.
None of this is helping with Virtue

Jan

[Roy G]

It is interesting that the Henry Upton who married Maria, were the parents of Lucy Upton.  Lucy's middle name at her baptism in Southwick, was ADAM.  The name Adam is again being repeated, giving a strong reason to suspect some family tie between Henry & John
Roy G

[Royalgaz]

Thank you so much Jan, really appreciate your time looking this up. Still very puzzling then about Virtue, wonder if her name was misheard or she gave a wrong name 

I still have to follow the Lucy Adam line, got a bit side tracked by another side of the family, who proved much easier to locate information for once I received the marriage certificate!

Will try and have a look sometime this week.

Thanks for your help. Regards Gary

[Roy G]

Got the following from FreeBMD

Deaths Mar quarter 1843 MARTIN Virtue 
Steyning district (Southwick?)  ref 7 346

Therefore Virtue should have been on the 1841 census.
Where was Richard on the 1841 census?

Could your Richard have been the illegitimate child of Virtue Martin and John Upton?

Roy G

[Royalgaz]

I have traced Henry Upton he was born 1808 in Southwick and in 1841 he appears to be lodging with another family (no other Upton's on page only Upperton family). No trace of his baptism record on IGI. He seems to marry Maria Cripps in 1846, so it doesn't look like Lucy's middle name comes from that mother, so think suggestion is right and there has to be some connection to my John, just what??

I have also received a response from another tree member, who is following the Upton family. She claims that John (father of Richard Adams Upton) was born circa 1778 in Brighton and that he has a brother James born circa 1771 in Brighton (married to Hannah), but she has no parents for them. I am unsure where she has obtained this information from though.

Looks like this may end up being another one of my brick walls.

Regards Gary