Southwick Baptism record look up

[Royalgaz]

Hello

If anyone can help on this mystery I would be very grateful. My rellie Richard Adams Upton was born circa 1818 in Southwick, Sussex. From IGI extracted record it says his parents were John Upton & Virtue. However can not trace any other siblings for these parents, or a marriage record.

I am hoping someone will be to check the original baptism record supposedly 22/02/1818 and verify if these were the correct parents.

His marriage certificate says his father was John Upton (a labourer).

Thank you Gary

[sillgen]

The Sussex Marriage Index does not have a marriage for John Upton to Virtue as far as I can see.  The only Southwick one anywhere near in time was in 1828.  John Upton to Rhoda Sturt of New Shoreham.  However it may be worth noting that there is a marriage in Portslade in 1795 for John Upton to Sarah Adams.
Andrea

[Royalgaz]

Thanks Andrea, it's very mystifying. Hopefully someone will be able to check the baptism record for me.

Gary

[Roy G]

It may be a long shot, but in Kingston (next to Southwick) in October 1796, you have a Virtue Adams marrying a John Martin of Southwick, and they produced a daughter called Virtue Martin who was bapt Southwick Sept 1798. 
Given that a mother's or in this case grandmother's maiden name can often appear as a second christian name, a search for a John Upton appearing on a marriage, bastardy order, or even just connected to a birth to a Virtue Martin circa 1818 could be a line worth following up.  Dont forget, not everything is on the IGI.

Roy G

[Roy G]

Post script
Another "coincidence!" 
Virtue Martin's only recorded brother was a Richard Martin, bapt Southwick 1800.
Roy G

[sillgen]

That is interesting Roy.  Well worth following up.
Andrea

[Roy G]

Going to add a tiny additional snippet, especially if someone can get hold of a Southwick marriage and burial register.

As Andrea found the only Southwick marriage of a John Upton was to Rhoda Sturt of New Shoreham in 1828, what if this was a second marriage?  It may therefore be worth having a look to see if that John Upton was a widower and if so, for the death of a Virtue Upton between 1818 and 1828. 

If that was not the case, you could try to find out if the couple (John & Virtue) survived long enough to be enumerated in the 1841 & 1851 censuses.  Richard Adams Upton, the son who married in 1845, might even be found living with them in 1841, or alternatively with his father and step mother.

I know much of this is still speculation, but when you are stumped, it occasionally helps to think a little bit outside the box
Roy G

[Royalgaz]

Thank you Roy. I never thought about the fact that the Sarah marriage could possibly be a second marriage and would fit.

Thank you for your suggestions they are very helpful. I have already traced Richard from 1841 census through to his death and sadly he never lives with his parents or any siblings. In 1841 he was a servant, then in 1845 he got married and lives with his wife and children for the rest of the years (no other Adam's or Upton's on the pages, but may check for Martin).

I have taken your suggestion about a Richard Martin bapt 1800, but can not locate him either on the census, unless his birthplace has been noted as somewhere else in Sussex, then there are quite a few sadly.

Fingers crossed someone will be able to access the records for me, as now I am even more intrigued, thanks to your suggestions.

Thanks regards Gary

[Roy G]

Giving you a bit more imfo, but a possible new puzzle to solve.

Info
In 1871, a John Upton, born Southwick c1798 was in the Parish Workhouse in Shoreham. 
The age is about right to have been your Virtue's husband.

Puzzle
Southwick baptisms also show a Lucy Adam(s?) Upton, daughter of Henry and Maria, baptised in 1852.  In any other circumstances, Adam is a name you would normally associate with a male, so I would suspect there was also a family connection between this other family and yours.
Roy G