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Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« on: Thursday 25 September 08 21:26 BST (UK) »
I am  researching  the  history  of St. Nathy's College Ballaghadereen  Co . Roscommon Ireland  for  the  Bicentenary  in  2010
. One  of  our  greatest  benefactors  was  a  gentleman  called  DENIS BRODERICK . he  was  originally  from  Ireland  and  made  his fortune in clothes/drapery/fashion /clothing  manufacture , we  are  not  sure.
He left part  of  his  fortune  to  the  Bishop of Southwark , and  part  to  the  Bishop of Achonry for  the  new section  College  which  was  opened  in  1916 .
I  would  like  to  know  what  trade  he  was  in , and  any  details  about  this man  who  made  it  possible  for  so  many deserving  students  to  gain  an  education .He  lived  in  Brighton  and  was  married .Died around 1912/ 1914 .his  wife  died later .

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 September 08 21:50 BST (UK) »
There is a record for a Denis Broderick dying in 1909 in Steyning district, some of which is now considered as being in Brighton, so this may have been him.

It has his year of birth as 1833

Does this sound about right?

Glen

**Looks right. The 1901 has him with wife Catherine, and it has his birthplace as Ireland**

**1881 has him born in Sligo, as a Woollen Warehouseman**

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 September 08 06:49 BST (UK) »
You can add to the above that in 1914, his wife Catherine also died in the Steyning district.  That district includes Hove & Preston, adjacent parishes to Brighton. 
My suggestion is that you purchase one or both death certificates to get more precise dates and also look for a will from after those dates.  Given that the date you have is 1914, it may well be that they had no children of their own and it was Catherine left her husband's fortune to the church. 
Also, seeing that the Brodericks were fairly well off, there may in addition, have been an obitury published in the local or national newspapers.
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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 September 08 10:31 BST (UK) »
There's a little bit more info here:
http://www.st-theresas-southwick.org.uk/html/parish_history.html

It says that they had 9 churches built!

Glen


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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 September 08 16:20 BST (UK) »
Found them on 1881 census (91 Fore Street, London,  Middx)
Missed them on the 1901 census (ask Glen where abouts he found them)
Has anyone got them in 1891, and would there have been a 35 year old Frederick John Broderick with them?

The quarters of the years where their deaths were registered in the Steyning district (Hove?) were,
Denis Broderick Oct - Dec 1909 age 76  (birth year c1833)
Catherine Broderick Jan - March 1914 age 83 (birth year c1831)
and another Broderick, who may have been their son who died early
Frederick John Broderick Jan - March 1896 age 40 (birth year c1856)

You should be able to get the Broderick's address in 1909 from a local Kellys street directory.  By what Glen has found, I would presume it to have been in Hove.

For obituaries the local weekly papers around that time were The Brighton Gazette and the Brighton & Hove Herald.

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 September 08 16:55 BST (UK) »
In 1891 they were living at 3 Denmark Villas in Hove (nice posh house!). No Frederick living with them, just a female servant [ RG12/818 Folio 112 Page 39]

In 1901, the couple were still living at 3 Denmark Villas. He's listed as Denis Brodrick [RG13/ 938 Folio 115 Page 9].

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 September 08 20:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks  so  much , the  address  we  have  just  found  in  the  college  was  Denmark  Villa's and  Hove . so  we  are  talking  about  the  same  people , this  is  great  because  at  last  we  know  his  wifes  name . there  is  a  huge life  sized  portrait of  both  of  them  in  the  foyer  of  the  college  and  only  Denis  and  MRS  .. we  are  really  thankful ......

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 September 08 20:39 BST (UK) »
Is  there  any  way  to  find  out  how  he  made  his  money ,  or  about  Frederick  John , I guess  that  is  why  she  was  dressed  all  in  black  in  the  portrait , and  why  they  were  so  interested  in helping set  up a  boys  college perhaps  thinking  of  helping  others  in  their  sons  memory .Take  a  look  at  the  St.  NATHY'S college  WEBSITE  and  you  will  see  what  they  helped  build, a  wonderful  legacy . thanks  so  much .

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Re: Denis Broderick from Brighton died around 1914
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 September 08 15:47 BST (UK) »
I can't say whether Frederick John was or was not related, he is just the only other Broderick that died in the very same locality as a couple who MAY have been his parents.  I have no access to the 1891 census (5 years before Frederick died) but it may be him I found working with a photographer in 1881.  Perhaps the Hove cemetery has a burial record of Frederick, Denis and Catherine? If they share a headstone or were buried together, that would suggest a family tie.

Also, as stated before, to find out what wealth they had and perhaps where it came from, wills (English or Irish) would seem to be a good source of info as would obituaries.  But to ease the search for the latter, you would still need a more precise day and month of death.  Hence the need to contact the cemetery or alternatively, to purchase a death certificate.  Otherwise, alowing for 2 weeks either side of the death quarter, you will just have to plough through the columns of anything up to 4 months worth of local newspapers, just on the off chance of finding something.

Roy G