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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 October 08 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Wait a minute...I have a bunch of Ellises living at "Pentre" in 1861...would this be the same place?

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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 August 09 21:01 BST (UK) »
Hello China,
I've just joined rootschat. I've noticed that you have a connection to the Williams family from Beudy Bach in Dolwyddelan. I am directly descended from Robert and Gwen Williams who lived there in 1841 through their daughter Catherine (b 1839). What is your connection please?
I have a lot of information on this family and their descendants and I know the Dolwyddelan area well.
Willjay
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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 September 09 21:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Bronnie,

I know the Dolwyddelan area well and I'm descended from one of the Beudu Bach Williams family in Roman Bridge. I can confirm that the current High Street is the old part of Pentre Bont. There are still several very old quarryman's cottages there which have individual names. These may once have had numbers.

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My grandfather was born at number 1 Pentre Bont, Dolwyddelan. In the 1891 Census, there are 23 dwellings listed in Pentre Bont. I can only identify it as a general area on maps old and new. Other members of his family lived for many years round the corner in Benar Terrace / Tan y Benar Dolwyddelan  from c1881 .

I wondered whether the cottages up the hill, now with a street sign 'High Street', might have been formerly known as 1-23 Pentre Bont  as I can't find High Street on the 1891 Census for that district. Individual properties in the immediate vicinity of the present High Street are listed on the 1891 in close proximity to dwellings number 1 to 23 Pentre Bont. Of course it is possible these dwellings no longer exist.

Any insider info would be so helpful.
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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 September 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply, Willjay.  I visited last year and took some photos. Curious to know if the cottage in which my gf was born is still there!

 Note you, like me also have Dolwyddelan Roberts  in your tree. Mine originated from Cwm Dyli,   Bedgellert.
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Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 25 September 09 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hope this link works.

 Have just come across this picture of old cottages in Pentre Bont. They look much older than the ones that are still standing today in 'High Street'. Wondering if this maybe grandfather's birthplace and these are the ones that are no longer in existence.

http://www.dolwyddelan.org/heritage/gallery.html
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Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 September 09 05:25 BST (UK) »
Wonderful photos, thanks for posting this...I was unaware of the website.

Doing a photo search for Ty-Capel, Dolwyddelan, I was surprised to find a photo of my cat. It was my avatar, from this thread :D

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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 25 September 09 11:53 BST (UK) »
I think the old Pentrebont cottages in the photo still exist - now done up as holiday homes. There is also a Ty Capel in Pentrebont as well as the one behind the later Moriah chapel on the main road.
Willjay
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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 September 09 13:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks willjay

Just had a look at some pics of the cottages on High Street as they stand today and on reflection, they do look like the same ones. My gfather was born in 1892 at "number 1 Pentre Bont" , according to his birth cert! I did walk up High Street  when I visited last year, but wasn't sure whether this was the same place!
"This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"
Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
Wilkinso

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Re: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 October 09 01:03 BST (UK) »
Don't know whether it's  right  to post this or not.

I'm doing a lot of random googling at the moment and when I come up with little gems like this, I'm loathe to let them disappear back into cyberspace in case there's a rootschatterer who they might strike a chord with!

http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/large/item/7434/

I know there are a few of us here researching the Dolwyddelan Williams's!!

Bron
"This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"
Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
Wilkinso