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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #9 on: Monday 01 December 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 01 December 08 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Your welcome! and welcome to Rootschat all of you!

You can send a personal message to anyone on this site by clicking on the little face under their name

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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 17:30 GMT (UK) »
I believe that you have been my details as I have been in contacted with the relative of the Turners. I live locally to Longton, Stoke-on-Trent and may be able to give some assistance - even though slightly limited.
Bruton - Gloucestershire. Canada
Potter - London. Australia.
Porter/Potter: New Zealand
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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Proud Welshman

This is getting to be better than I could have ever wished for. Could you contact me direct please.

I am sure that Pam would like to ask info on a few of her findings too.

Awaiting your email, Rob
Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Rob

Can you remove your e-mail and PM it Welshman otherwise you might end up with a load of spam (not in tins either!)

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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #14 on: Monday 15 December 08 21:00 GMT (UK) »
I have closed off another posting that ended up running parallel to this one so I'm hoping that both Joy and Crystal will continue and post their findings in here.

Joy.. An update on your findings of Ann Emery's mother. You found from the Brewood register that she was Elizabeth Thrustons? (hard to read). Well I took a look in headstone list in the churchyard and found that there were many Thrustons so I presume that this is the correct name. I logged into "Family search and obtained an IGI on her and then clicked the Pedigree tab .... Whoa... Instantly back through 7 generations to 1540 ..... Thank you very much for the lead Joy!

The tree I received from the USA has proved to be incorrect. Although the same names, birthdates and fathers names (mothers name was different) the one person cant be buried in two places. Not my Turner family.

A PM from Pam reveals that it isn't always easy. Good luck with finding the new parish Pam.

Last but not least.  My post for Newport Shropshire has revealed another Turner marriage in Brewood that I can't account for. Maurice has replied saying "You probably have John Turner married Catherine Tagg at St Mary's, Brewood on October 19th 1760". I have searched the Headstones and find none from the "Tagg" family. Also I can't account for this John Turner as this marriage is one year after my potter John Turners marriage.

The puzzle goes on. Could somebody confirm this find in the Brewood register please.

Rob
Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29 December 08 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rob and everyone else on here.

I have managed to find the following marriage information and hope its the one you were after:

St Marys & St Chad's, Brewood,

The said John Turner of this parish and Catherine Tagg of this parish were married in this Church by Banns this ninetinth day of October in the year one thoufand seven hundred and sixty by me Thomas (can't read surname) minister.  This marriage was folemnized between us John Turner - his mark and Catherine Tagg - her mark.  In the prefence of John Simfon (not sure on surname) - signed and John Yates - his mark.


No other details given.  I also had time to recheck the burials and found the following for you, both at Brewood:

1788 Jan 2nd , Jno Turner from (looks like 'Lane End' but not sure).
1776 Sep 28, Walter Turner


Also found this baptism, it may be the John and Catherine from the above marriage?:

1776 May 9, John, son of John & Catherine Turner

Hope I have the correct people.

Crystal
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 December 08 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Crystal. 

I've read that a few times now trying to digest just what it means in relation to my Turner family (as I know it) and whether possibly they were related.

At this stage I must say no, purely because they used a mark instead of their signature. My John Turner who married a year earlier was educated and apparently the son of a Brewood Lawyer whose siblings would also be educated. Therefore that John shouldn't be a son of those siblings either.

Walter Turner is mentioned on the Turner Tomb. I have always presumed he was the brother of our "potter John"

The burial date of potter John is interesting as all records have the date as 21st Dec 1787. Your date of burial in Brewood 12 days later makes me think that he didn't die in Brewood but in Lane End where he had his pottery manufactory.

The wording used was "from Lane End" instead of "of Lane End" so I presume it means that he was brought from Lane End to be buried with his wife and not that he was from Lane End and died in Brewood.

I had always thought that in failing health he had returned to Brewood Hall to be nursed by his sister and be close to his wifes grave. Ha!.. another presumption bites the dust.

In Australia there is a well known history of heart problems in the Turner family which may have gone back to this time frame too.

It is good to find that I haven't included their John Turner (9th May 1776) into my Tree.

Rob






Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: Turner/Emery
« Reply #17 on: Monday 29 December 08 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rob

I must admit I puzzled over the marriage especially after reading all the other info, as you said the family suggests that he should have been able to sign his name - at least you can now cross him off your list as having been checked out.

Re the burial for potter John - the date is obviously why I could not find him before as I had been going by the date you gave me.  The fiche was quite difficult to decipher, 3 people each had a go and we all decided that it defiantly looked like 'from Lane End' - End was quite difficult to make out, it was defiantly 3 letters and began with an 'E' and our assumption was End.  Hope I have got it right for you but it seems strange that the date does not tally with the one I found?  Is it possible that 21 Dec 1787 is the date of death?  Some more questions for you I'm afraid.

Crystal
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