Turner/Emery

[Willow 4873]

Thanx Dozey_Joy

Its people like you that make Rootschat such a brilliant place 

Willow x

[Dozey_Joy]

Willow

I've enjoyed it and it's been good practice reading the handwriting in the parish registers. It also makes a change from trying to find Jones and Edwards!!

Rob

There's several points to add to my previous post.
1) I think Castle Church refers to the church near Stafford Castle.
2) I've searched the baptisms for Brewood from 1760 to 1780 inclusive. There may be more children for Samuel and Sarah after this date.
3) I've searched the marriages for St Marys, Stafford from 1754 to 1762 inclusive and those two were the only Turner marriages.
4) I forgot to say before but I asked about being married by license. There should be some records concerning the application for the license but these are with the diocese records and are kept at Lichfield. These records may or may not give extra details but it could be worth finding out. Perhaps Crystal can help again?

Joy

[Old-Bonez]

Happy New Year everybody

Pam has been keeping me busy with information on potter Johns sons (William) family as well as his other son Johns family... Everything is after 1760 and rich in detail.

We have proved in here that there is no information in Brewood on potter John Turner prior to his marriage to Ann Emery in 1759. The only spark of information comes from Mary Wakefields 1932 book "Ancient Brewood" which I have already spoken of a couple of weeks back.

Joys information has filled in another gap in the tree and a fresh lead in finding Henry S Turner of Castle Church.

So if he was a brother to Sarah and witness to her marriage than the birth place of their brother "potter John" could be Castle Church

When somebody has some time could they take a look please.

Here are names and dates:
(Remember that parents names are unknown but I believe they will found to be John and Sarah)

ABT 1732 Henry S Turner
ABT 1734 Walter
b.    1738 John
Abt  1740 Sarah I

As always there is no rush.

Rob

[zacharyturner]

hey rob,
in the book Turners of Lane End,it mentions a Mr David Lea Turner, he's my great,great,great Grandad. i was wondereing if there if this is the same Turner family as yours?

[Old-Bonez]

Hello cousin Zachary

Well we are very distant cousins at least. From these postings you would know I am a descendant of the well known potter John Turner which I guess you are too. I have managed to go back up my line but to come down each branch is difficult.

Pam has done well with her research into Mary Ann Turner and others of "son Williams" line. I am a descentant of "son John" ... without studying things I'm guessing that you are a decedent of "son Johns son", lawyer Henry Turner of Brewood & Wolverhampton. My line comes from "son Thomas" who together with his other brother (John Entwhistle) came to Australia

As for David Lea Turner I haven't found him yet to place into my tree. Perhaps we can work together on it.

Rob

[zacharyturner]

Hey,

Well i have a turner family bible which has birth and death entries,which dates back to about 1845, and i can try and put a list together this week of all the names and dates.

[Old-Bonez]

All we will need to do then is link your data to the potter John Turner and everything should fit.

I will send you a PM with access info to my tree... You may already know how the link is made when you see this.

Cousin Rob...lol
 

[Old-Bonez]

Thank you Paul so very much for your PM relating to Mary Wakefield's book "Ancient Brewood"

It is interesting that she says "John Turner's father was Lawyer Turner of Brewood Hall".

One would think that since there are so many surviving leagal documents of his great grandson (lawyer Henry) there would be some sort of mention somewhere of an earlier Brewood Lawyer.

It has also got me thinking of the possibility that the Hall was leased to William Emery after John's fathers death. Did the Turner children continue to live there with the Emerys or since they were now almost adult did they simply live elsewhere as there was no longer a bread winner in the family. Possibly this is why John Turner took up a potting apprentership with Daniel Bird which is a trade I think is most unlike the son of a lawyer would want.

Enough of this thinking out loud but it does show just what a little information does to my thinking pattern.

Thank you so very much Paul for clarifying that snippet of information.

Rob

[Old-Bonez]

Thanks Zac for your PM and your tree as you know it which goes back to a George Turner.

I have a George in the tree that I have absolutely nothing on. He was the 2nd youngest son of John Turner & Mary Hyde and a full brother to John Entwhistle & Thomas Turner who came to Australia.

All we have to do now is prove that your George is my George which will again take a little research. Yes they are about the same timeframe.

Let me research Family Search a little to see just what comes up on George Turner b. 1814 & Christened 12th Feb 1815 St. John's Lane End.

What is the chance Joy/Crystal that you could look in the Brewood register for a Marriage which I can really find nothing of in Family Search.

George would have been brought up living in Brewood Hall & with luck he may have married there. If we find he married a "Mary" then we have a fair link.
What is the chance that you can post a census look up Zac as people must be getting sick of my requests for help. He is your ancestor too!

Rob