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Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« on: Thursday 18 September 08 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Rootchaters
Wondering how I can trace any thing about Lizzie before she came to England by 1871 (on census at Weston Super Mare) in service.
This lady is my 3xgreat grandmother and while I know lots about her in England, Irelands just so elusive,have trawled the internet and found nothing as yet.
I have her marriage cert and on it she says her father was Hugh Mulholland a farm bailiff,would this mean he worked for a big estate?I don't know what religion she was but she married in  Dunwich Parish Church Suffolk so maybe not catholic?I know she came from Ballywalter as a relly in Australia who has done  some research  has paper work that states where she was born.
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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 September 08 12:35 BST (UK) »
Hi  Dodo50,
The Mulholland surname [and after 1892 the line was promoted to Baron Dunleath],  and Ballywalter are closely connected since at least 1846 when the Mulhollands acquired the estate from the Matthews family.

However I discover information that might lead you away immediately from Ballywalter Co Down to a place called Shaneoguestown in the parish of  ‘Grange of Muckamore’ Co Antrim ,read on please

Just to indicate sources on Ballywalter     
if you look up www.ballywalterpark.com/history.html#  There is a tree of showing the Mulholland’s , but with the daughters just listed by quantity and not names.  John Mulholland 1819-1895 had 3 sons the eldest son was b 1852 and  he had 3 daughters, one of whom might be your Elizabeth or say a cousin . A library copy of  Burkes Peerage would help you best. Burkes is also available for fee payment on line for 24 hours.

A Mulholland family tree exists in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in the LinenHall library, Belfast.  I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and you should be prepared to pay a fee for copying, post and packing, and perhaps some staff time and overheads.. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707,  Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email: <irish.reference[at]linenhall.com>.Blackwood 
Mulholland     vol 5 p2 (Lord Dunleath’s family name)

However in my unsucessful pursuits to find Lizzies birth at Ballywalter, I came across something that has too many coincidences to ignore
from www.ancestryireland.com
Eliza Mulholland  Birth:  26 JUL 1853   Of Shanguestown, {Jim adds see current spelling below} Antrim, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:   Hugh Mulholland    Mother:  Mary Thompson 

from www.proni.gov.uk/index/local_history/geographical_index/townlands.htmThe spelling of this townland should be Shaneoguestown
Shaneoguestown

from Griffiths valuation www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/antrim/grangeofmuckamore.htm
this survey is dated about 1861-5 ie he is living there then
Mulholland      Hugh                 Shaneoguestown          Grange of Muckamore     Antrim
Mulholland      Patrick              Ballyharvey Upper       Grange of Muckamore     Antrim
so is this the right Hugh anyway, and did Hugh move to work on the 1000 acres of the Ballywalter estate before his daughter went to England

At the NIPRO are the Mulholland papers ie http://www.proni.gov.uk/index_alphabetical_index_to_private_deposits.pdfin amongst taht might be records of the estate managers etc.

From this year 2008 www.planningni.gov.uk/Devel_Control/council_schedules/antrim/Antrim_S240408.pdf
which currently shows a Mr Mulholland made a proposal for a change to an Agricultural building  ie T/2007/0191/F  at 87 Oldstone Road, Muckamore Ballymena, BT41 4SP , This could be a relative.
So thats a curious starting reply for you, I hope my later part is not a red herring, lets hope more chatters will join in
Regards Jim
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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 September 08 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim
Thank you so much,its a lead which after 18 months of searching is better than a kick up the bum.lol I'm going to email my relly in Aus to see what docs she got her info from. I have a picture of Lizzie she was a very austere lady.I have printed your reply as its so much to take on board. Once again thank you new rootschaters would not let me down.what a great bunch of people.
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Plymouth:Burt, Fox, Spurrell.
Cornwall: Bowhay, Lucas.
Stirling:Kirk,Mason, Higgins.Mckay, Bruce.
Fife:Thomson, Watt, Kirk.

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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 September 08 17:06 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Found a Hugh Mulholland married Elizabeth Little, on the 21 Feb 1852, in Ballywalter 1st Presbyterian Church. Marriage was registered in Newtownards.
Lizzie's birth may be before 1864 which would predate civil birth registrations, in which case church records are the route to finding her birth, subject to the church records still existing.
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Dixie
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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 September 08 11:33 BST (UK) »
Ros Davies website gives church records under church heading, my understanding would be Baptisms from 1824, marriages from 1845 exist .
good luck, Jim
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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 April 09 19:11 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I used to live in Ballywalter, so I can tell you that the Mulholland family in the village now own the large estate and manor house, Dunleaths. [edit] I can't think of site addresses from the top of my head, but there is a website dedicated to family history in Ballywalter and it also has links to the surrounding areas. Good Luck with your search!


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Re: Lizze Mulholland dob 1853 Ballywalter co Down
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 April 09 00:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Maralin

http://www.ballywalterpark.com/history.html

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