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Martha
« on: Wednesday 17 September 08 06:32 BST (UK) »
Pape Funeral Home has the following.  Lloyd. Martha J. Birth 2/21/1888. place of birth, Sidney Il. Father, Wilson, Henry, Mother. Fulton Sarah. Spouse Wilbur + Fred. Wedding Date 6/20/1925. Death 9/6/1965. Cemetery Mayview. My inquiry is.
1. Is this the 2nd Wife of Fred R Lloyd,1873, son of Henry Thomas Lloyd and Sarah Church
2. According to 1930 Census she had a son to her 1st Husband, birth date would be nice.
3. 1st Husbands names.
4. Where is Mayview (Catlin?).
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Martha J
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 06:45 BST (UK) »
I have the following info.Lloyd Martha J 2/12/1888, Sidney Ill. Father Wilson Henry, Mother Fulton Sarah. Spouse Wilbur + Fred, Wedding date 6/20/1925, Death date 9/6/1965. My request.
1 Is this the wife of Fred R Lloyd 1873, Illinoise.
2 Can any one tell me the names of the first husband and if possible the birth date of her son Ronald, 1930 Census  shows stepson.
Finally where is Mayview Cemetery.
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Re: Martha J
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 09:14 BST (UK) »
I'm totally confused here.
Is it Martha J. Lloyd?
is the date 12 Feb. (not 2 Dec.?) 1888 date of her birth?
Martha is the daughter of Henry Wilson and Sarah Fulton?
Was she married twice- to a Wilbur and to a Fred?
'wedding date 20 June 1925? to Wilbur?- or to Fred?
Martha died 6 Sept.1965?

Fred R. Lloyd born 1873? in Illinois?

Where did the above information come from?- that may give clue as to where Mayview Cemetery is located. Also including the details from 1930 census (names ages, birthplaces, occupations) might help locate Martha in earlier records.
 
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Re: Martha J
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Re: Martha J
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 12:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shelly. Still hoping Squire can clarify the first post here.
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Re: Martha
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 September 08 01:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Squire

Ok well lets look at the data....first off you gave us Martha's particulars

LLOYD, MARTHA J.
  Date of Birth  2/12/1888
 Place of Birth  SIDNEY,IL
 Father  WILSON,HENRY
 Mother  FULTON,SARAH
 Spouse  WILBUR+FRED
 Wedding Date  6/20/1925
 Date of Death  9/6/1965
 Cemetery  MAYVIEW,IL


and so a search for Fred gives us this:

LLOYD, FREDERICK R.
 ate of Birth  4/7/1873
 Place of Birth  CATLIN,IL.
 Father  LLOYD,HENRY
 Mother  CHURCH,SARAH
 Spouse  MARTHA
 Wedding Date   
 Date of Death  10/30/1965
 Cemetery  OAK RIDGE


Soooo...since Fred died after Sarah did by one month...we can be sure that he was her last husband....and quite likely she was his last wife.  Not sure if he had been married earlier but it looks like Martha had been.  So then a look at teh 1930 census and sure enough Raymond age 16 is a step son to Fred. So that means that Martha was married by 1914 probably.  Knowing her birth year and where her parents were born from the 1930 census is the best clue you have.  Go back to 1900 and find her with her parents who we know from the MI info were named Henry and Sarah.  They are easily found living in Raymond, Champaign, IL and Martha is age 12.  So then search in 1910 for first name Martha b. Illinois in 1888 with a spouse named Wilbur.  Bingo....

Name: Martha Duncan
b. ab. 1888
Birthplace: Illinois 
Father born Ohio
Mother born Tennessee
 
Living in......Raymond, Champaign, Illinois

Household Members:
Wilbur J Duncan age 27 head 
Martha Duncan age 22 wife 

and then looking in 1920 is a snap...she's back at home and a widow...

Martha Duncan
[Martha Wilson] 
living in Saint Joseph, Champaign, Illinois
Father born Ohio 
Mother born Tennessee

members of the household
Sarah Wilson age 52 
Martha Duncan age 30 dau widow
Edith Wilson age 29 
Ruby Wilson age 26 
Elsie Wilson age 23 
Russell Wilson age 18 
Ronald Duncan age 6 
 
Best wishes
Jean
 

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Re: Martha
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 September 08 03:24 BST (UK) »
Pape Funeral Home has the following.  Lloyd. Martha J. Birth 2/21/1888. place of birth, Sidney Il. Father, Wilson, Henry, Mother. Fulton Sarah. Spouse Wilbur + Fred. Wedding Date 6/20/1925. Death 9/6/1965. Cemetery Mayview. My inquiry is.

4. Where is Mayview (Catlin?).

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Cemetery Probably Mt Olive near Mayview

Link for the county
http://www.co.champaign.il.us/
SCHOFIELD - Lancashire, Manchester, Oldham

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Re: Martha
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 September 08 07:55 BST (UK) »
Squire has already started a thread looking for Martha just the other day a few minutes after this one to which there are some replies but no answers to questions Squire was asked to clarify the request. Having the same in 2 places means that answers are duplicated and it causes needless work and confusion.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,328128.msg2085514.html#msg2085514
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Re: Martha J
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 September 08 07:57 BST (UK) »
For some reason Squire has started another post about Martha here a few minutes before this one:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,328123.msg2085506.html#msg2085506
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