Evan Gwilym James - 1897 Newquay

[deb usa]

Francis

Welcome to Rootschat ...

Evan Gwilym James is my gr grandfather albeit through adoption! I am happy to meet you even though it's on the internet LOL

deb

[janetmp]

Deb.
As I live in Aberaeron I will get out this week and do some digging for you.
The church in New Quay is quite new but the grave yard is not disturbed too much. I will go and have a look for you. Any chance of emailing me a pdf of this bit of your family tree?

Llnawllchaiarn is the Parish that includes New Quay. Aberaeron is about 7 miles away.


jan

[F J]

Hello

I have fairly recently started looking at our family history. Whilst doing so I came across your message and chats about Evan G. Although I already knew most I did learn a bit more.

In a distant way, I think it does meant we're related and hope you can follow this. Evan G's father was John James - one of John's brothers was Thomas. Thomas married an Elizabeth Evans and had 3 children, 2 girls and a son David. David had 6 children - Lizzle Eleanora, John Evan Lisbon, Thomas Arthur, David Ewart, Hydwen & Violette. David Ewart is my Grandfather making Thomas my Great, Great Grandfather.

My mother can remember Argo (one of Evan's brother) and lives very close to New Quay.

 If you managed to follow that, I hope it is of some interest to you !!!!!

[deb usa]

Hi F J

I'm so glad you found this post!

This would be your Thomas and my John together on the 1851 census, sons of John James and Ann Evans Davies:

2 Chapel Row, Newquay

Ann James, Head, Mar, 42
Jane, Dau, 14,
Thomas, Son, 11, Scholar
Esther, Dau, 8, Scholar
Eleanor, Dau, 6
Ann, Dau, 4
John, Son, 2
James, Son, 10 mo

Have you managed to trace their parents back further?

I would love to hear any stories about the family.

Thanks

deb

[F J]

Hello Deb

First I appologise as after posting my reply I realised I hadn't signed off properly!

I haven't got any further back than John and Ann yet but hope to in time. Most of my information has come from my great Aunts, Hydwen & Vio, it is of these siblings I know the most about as they would regularly tell stories of the family whenever we visited. My grandfather David Ewart (in typical welsh fashion is known as Ewart) was the only on to have children. Lizzie Eleanora (known as Nora) trainned as a teacher then married a headteacher (David Evan Davies), John Evan Lisbon (known as Lisbon) died at the age of 15 in Saigon in 1910(he was on his first trip as a ships apprentice), Thomas Arthur (known as Tom) died at 20 in 1917 in the first world war in France, my grandfather married Beatrice Davies and they had 2 daughters (my mother Ann Arabella, called Bella and her sister Mary Honoria Eileen, called Eileen). Hydwen and Vio never married and lived together in Lewis Terrace in New Quay (all have now died).

For some reason Mum mainly remembers Argo of John's family (I do have some picturs of Argo and I think his sons somewhere). As she remembers bits she does tell me but my stepfather is very ill so I don't like to push to hard at the moment as she has alot the contend with.

When I get some time I will look out the photos and scan them to attach to another message.

If you haven't found it yet ,look on the 1861 and 1871 census you will find Esther living with her grandmother Esther Davies who is 80 and 91 years old and a beer seller/inn keeper. After this it is Thomas's family I have followed.

Hoping you have managed to follow this as I have tried to condense it as much as possible and that some of it is of interest.

Frances     

[deb usa]

Hi Frances

Great to hear from you again! Thanks for the info on your Thomas' family.

I have done a lot more research today and am finding it quite fascinating! Seems that a lot of the family died at sea, one of them at age 15.

I would love to take them further back! John James was b 1808 New Quay ...I wonder if we can find that on IGI? I did spot this today...John James (1808) married Anne Davies in the St.Llwchaiarn Parish Church on 25 November 1834.

Also from an MI:
"In loving memory of Anne beloved spouse of John James, 2 High Terrace, New Quay who died January 4 1886 aged 78. Also John James named above who died February 26, 1890 aged 82. And David his son who died July 19, 1891 aged 56. Also Esther his daughter who died March 19, 1828 aged 81. Also Eleanor his daughter who died January 16, 1933 aged 88. Also their son Solomon Christmas who died March 25, 1940 aged 87."

I think Esther's death year should be 1928 and not 1828!

I would love to see some photos when it's possible. i will also look for the censuses with Esther and her grandmother.

Deb

[F J]

Well done, you've got further than me!! 

You are obviously more practiced at this research, I only started a few weeks ago and am finding it a bit mind blowing how to get hold of the info.

The one that died at sea at 15 was John Evan Lisbon, he fell down the cargo opening on deck (not sure what it's proper name is).

Won't forget about photos.

Frances  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[janetmp]

I have a lot of photos of Newquay ...would you like to see them?

[F J]

Hello Deb

Sorry about the wait but just been busy. At last over the week end I managed to dig out the photo of  Thomas Argo, I just hope I manage to attach it OK. We have always thought that Argos name is something to do with a ship as his brother Thomas's house was called Argo House and have now found out it was a ship that was owned by their father John James D.O.B 1808.

Happy hunting for any other info 

Frances  xxxxxxxxxx