Evan Gwilym James - 1897 Newquay

[deb usa]

Hi everyone

I rarely venture onto the Welsh Threads as I have never had a need to , until just recently.

I have discovered that my Granddad (albeit, step Granddad who is the only granadad that I have known) Philip Thomas James b 1919 Liverpool was the s/o Evan Gwilym James and Maud Evelyn Dudley.

This is what I have managed to find so far:

1901
Cardiganshire
11 Marine terrace
John James head married 52 master mariner born Newquay, Cardigan
Ellen wife 40
John Osborne James son 13
David Warren James son 11
Thomas Argo james son 7
Philip Wallace James son 7 (twins??)
EVAN GWILYM JAMES son 4
Mary Evans Mother-in-law widow 70 born Pembrokeshire Fishguard
(All John's family above born in Newquay, Cardiganshire)
 
1891
11 Marine Terrace
Mary Evans head widow 60 living on her own means born Fishguard
Ellen JAMES dau married 29 seaman's wife
Evan G James grandson 5
John O James   " 3
David W James " 2
No sign John snr 
 
so now in 1891 we have another Evan G James ....

Evan GWILYM James  born 1887 died march quarter 1896, Aberayon, Cardiganshire
so the first one died and then 'my' Evan Gwilym James was registered a year later... June quarter 1897.

I have found Evan Gwilym James Attestation papers (b 7 March 1896, father John with correct address but dates is off for 1897 reg  ) and him on a passenger list to New York....
it seems he left from Liverpool at age 16 to go to NY  ,,,1913 he was on the ship named the ADRIATIC.
He joined the RCGA (Royal Canadian ??) in Dec 1916 til Jan 1917 and then the Royal Canadian Expeditionary Forces in May 1917.

By 1919;
Evan G James = Maud Evelyn Dudley West Derby and Philip Thomas James born 26 August 1919. 

Philip Thomas James = Venie Violet Penfold
2 Dec 1944 Plymouth
He was 26, Batchelor , Leading Stoker RN DKX 93313 and she 30, spinster, Waitress (Cafe)


I am hoping that I, along with everyone's help, can get much further back and add some info re; His siblings ( great middle names, don't you think? )....but most of all I am hoping that we will find some living rellies along the way....

as always ...I appreciate your help and time

deb

[Fisherman]

Hi deb,

1881

RG11/5441/881/33

11 Marine Row, Newquay, Cardiganshire
Mary Evans, Wife, Mar, 50, Sailors Wife,  Pembroke Fishguard
Ellen Evans, Daur, Unmar, 19, Sailors Daughter, Cardiganshire Newquay

Chris

[Fisherman]

1871
RG10/555/21/8

11 Mariner Street
Mary Evans, Wife, Mar, 40, Mariners Wife, Fishguard
William James Evans, Son, 13, Scholar, Newquay, Cardiganshire
Ellen Evans, Dau, 10, Scholar, Newquay
Evan Phillip, Son, 7, Scholar, Newquay
Also in the house
William Bolderson, Head, Mar, 58, Greenwich Pensioner, Winthorpe Lincoln
Mary, Wife, Wife, Mar, 55, Newquay


Chris

[Fisherman]

1861
RG9/4191/3/8

11 Mariner Row
Mary Evans, Wife, Mar, 30, Master Mariners Wife, Pembroke Fishguard
William James Evans, Son, 2, Cardigan Newquay

Also in the house
William Caleb Owen, Head, Mar, 31, Joiner employing 3 men, Cardigan Aberayron (Aberaeron)
Mary Owen, Wife Mar, 21, Cardigan Newquay
Evan Owen, Son, 2 mo, Cardigan Newquay

Chris

[deb usa]

Thanks for that Chris

I appreciate your help ...I will return tomorrow (my tomorrow ) as I am not feeling well ...hopefully I can give some imput.

I wonder if Ellen's dad was ever home for a census?

deb

[Fisherman]

Hi deb,

Hope you feel better soon.

Doesn't seem to be at home much doe's he 

Can't find Mary for certain before '61

Will have a look at the James family.

 chris

[Fisherman]

1861
RG9/4191/15/31

2 High Ter.
John James, Head, Mar, 53, Master Mariner
Ann, Wife, Mar, 53
Jane, Dau, Unm, 24
Eleanor, Dau, Unm, 17
Ann, Dau, 15
John, Son, 12
James, Son, 10
Soloman, Son 8

All born Newquay

[Fisherman]

1851
HO107/2484/446/19

2 Chapel Row, Newquay

Ann James, Head, Mar, 42
Jane, Dau, 14,
Thomas, Son, 11, Scholar
Esther, Dau, 8, Scholar
Eleanor, Dau, 6
Ann, Dau, 4
John, Son, 2
James, Son, 10 mo

All born Newquay

[Fisherman]

1871
10/5555/33/32

(John jnr. not at home)
2 High Ter. Newquay
John James, Head, Mar, 62, Master Mariner Unemployed,
Anne, Wife, Mar, 62,
Jane, Dau, Unm, 33
Eleanor, Dau, Unm, 25,
James, Son, Unm, 21 Journeyman Watchmaker
Soloman, Son, Unm, 18, Mariner

All born Newquay