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Re: Dunnottar House
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 16:03 BST (UK) »

...... I should have added an acknowledgement; I'm sorry to hear that Eric died in 1989.

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« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 19:08 BST (UK) »
So great that this thread is uncovering more relatives and family history! It really is fascinating. A quick note to those who are interested (& hopefully not offended), Mr Henry Oliphant Ritchie's rifle returned to the highlhands on Corrielair estate only last week ,where I was honoured to take a 12 point royal stag with it. Living history

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« Reply #110 on: Saturday 13 September 25 14:55 BST (UK) »
Messrs F. and H. O. Ritchie, Dunnottar House: The Ritchies were wealthy jute manufacturers from Dundee who purchased the Dunnottar Estate in 1873. Their presence indicates the influence of new money and industry in the region. Dunnottar House itself was a symbol of this new wealth......
Probably old news....

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« Reply #111 on: Saturday 13 September 25 15:06 BST (UK) »
That sounds as though it was an unfairly one-sided battle.

Zaph

So great that this thread is uncovering more relatives and family history! It really is fascinating. A quick note to those who are interested (& hopefully not offended), Mr Henry Oliphant Ritchie's rifle returned to the highlhands on Corrielair estate only last week ,where I was honoured to take a 12 point royal stag with it. Living history


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« Reply #112 on: Saturday 13 September 25 21:27 BST (UK) »
Just a brief response to coplani's post...my research has identified the family as Wine Merchant James Ritchie, his wife Jane and sons David and William (both also described as Wine Merchants) living in Glasgow at the time of the 1841 census.  The 1851 census shows Jane (widow) with son William, occupation now given as Wine and Spirit Merchant. It was from Glasgow that William and his wife Margaret (nee Oliphant) moved, firstly to the Bridge of Allan living with Margaret's parents...now William is a 'Distiller' and in due course he took over the Glenury Distillery Stonehaven in the late 1850s.  It appears that William, Margaret and family were tenants of Dunnottar House from the 1880s, and purchased the Dunnottar House and estate in 1901.  I apologise for the vagueness and lack of precision here - I now have rather restricted access to to my family tree records, and with the advancing years my eyes are not working too well  ::).  I feel that the 'Jute'/Dundee Ritchies are not directly connected with the Dunnottar House family.  it couldd be that Ive missed a thread....I wonder what you think coplani?
Messrs F. and H. O. Ritchie, Dunnottar House: The Ritchies were wealthy jute manufacturers from Dundee who purchased the Dunnottar Estate in 1873. Their presence indicates the influence of new money and industry in the region. Dunnottar House itself was a symbol of this new wealth......
Probably old news....
   

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« Reply #113 on: Saturday 13 September 25 23:20 BST (UK) »
Not 100% certain....I was testing AI Deepseek following searching 1950s "Mearns Leader" headlines on "Dunnottar House" and feeding it into the Deepseek AI to test DeepSeek response.....Proves AI is not 100% reliable for sure.
There be a problem with AI....If it does not know, it fills in details as a child would do....Be cautious about using AI for research.....
But you csn actually read the articles.

"The British Newspaper Archive" is a great source of information....
I knew Hans Prugl who was a German POW and after the war worked for my uncle at Fetteresso...A great character....Which I was also interested to find Italian and German POWs located in the Mearns.....

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« Reply #114 on: Sunday 14 September 25 20:22 BST (UK) »
I'm certain that my information is accurate, and that the Ritchie family originated in Glasgow as I previously described (my wife is the great grand-daughter of William and Margaret - nee Oliphant, of Dunnottar House) ...I feel it would have been impolite to state directly that coplant's Dundee Ritchie family were not the Dunnottar House lot.  My wife's father Robin Ritchie b.1904, was the son of artist Charles E Ritchie - who was one of four (or five, sorry, I have them all recorded in great detail in my computerised "tree" which, as I mentioned is not easy for me to navigate now - it's my eyes y'know.) boys and a girl, children of William and Margaret Ritchie. All the sons of William and Margaret went to Oxford and gained law degrees. In the interests of continuity of the progress of William Ritchie, from Glasgow to Dunnottar House, I must refer back to my earlier comment about William and Margaret living in Bridge of Allan with Margarets parents, the Oliphant, that was from the 1861 census in which William describes himself, not only as a distiller, but "Distiller Stonehaven".  I spent hundreds of hours over a period of several years, researching my family and extended family roots...but for the past few years have left the records alone. 
Sorry about the rambling, but thanks coplani, for nudging me to, to some stent, have a renewed interest in the Ritchies of Dunnottarr House.

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« Reply #115 on: Sunday 14 September 25 20:41 BST (UK) »
See this, it might help....

"Death of Dunnettar Laird
... Death of Dunnettar Laird ']‘HF death occurred last week-end - of Mr William Hamilton Ritchie at his residence, Dunnottar House, Stonehaven. Mr Ritchie, who was eighty-two years of age. had oniy been ill for a few weeks. He was the eldest son of the late ...

Published: Friday 04 February 1944
Newspaper: Mearns Leader
County: Kincardineshire, Scotland
Type: Article | Words: 163 | Page: 1 | Tags: none

I did not read the paper but that is part of the story....You could access it from here.....

https://britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1900-01-01/1949-12-31?basicsearch=dunnottar%20house&somesearch=dunnottar%20house&exactsearch=true&retrievecountrycounts=false&newspapertitle=mearns%2Bleader&sortorder=2%2F1000&page=1

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Re: Dunnottar House
« Reply #116 on: Sunday 14 September 25 21:11 BST (UK) »
See Scotland's People Details....
William Hamilton Ritchie (Proprieter) single...Died Jan 30th 1944 at Dunnottar House, Dunnottar aged 82 years....
Father William Ritchie (dec), Distiller.
Mother Margaret Ritchie (dec)  ms Hamilton.

(1944   1944 RITCHIE, WILLIAM HAMILTO (Statutory registers Deaths 255/ 16)   Edit   14/09/2025 @ 20:43)


Hope this clears it up.

All the Best....Ian