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TOUT in Devon
« on: Monday 15 September 08 07:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   Wondering if any one can help please I am looking for any info on William Tout all I can tell you is that on his marriage certificate it says he was born in Devonshire mothers name was Elizabeth Cornish no fathers name given he married in Bombala Australia in 1859 to Rose Macon it says. I cant seem to find him anywhere in Nsw bmd for his death or in passenger lists for when he came to Australia any help would be appreciated
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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 September 08 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Yazzie,

Found this on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Births:

William Tout   SepQ 1840  Tiverton &c.  10   229

Do you know how old he was when he married?



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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 September 08 09:36 BST (UK) »

Just checked 1881 census; looks as though that William stayed in Devon.   :(

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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 September 08 12:23 BST (UK) »
Have you searched NSW BDM's?

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

I found the 1859 marriage to Rose Maco (not Macon). There were 6 children born of parents William and Rose/Rose A. Tout between 1859 and 1869 at various towns. Rose Tout died 1913 in Granville (Sydney), so if you applied for her death certificate, that would help as to whether it was the same Rose, as it would list her husand, children, marriage etc....................... That may help with your search.

There were of 3 deaths for William Tout, between 1861 and 1893 but which one could it be, if at all? That's why I suggest get Rose's Death Cert. If you already have it, I don't know...........................

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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi,
         William was 26 when he married Rose in 1859 I have there family im trying  go back further her surname changes a bit on certificates she was 22 when she married gives her mother as susan mcmahon says rose was born in ireland
          Thank you for your replys
                 Yazzie
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Tout Coombes Kirkman
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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 07:43 BST (UK) »
Have you searched NSW BDM's?

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

I found the 1859 marriage to Rose Maco (not Macon). There were 6 children born of parents William and Rose/Rose A. Tout between 1859 and 1869 at various towns. Rose Tout died 1913 in Granville (Sydney), so if you applied for her death certificate, that would help as to whether it was the same Rose, as it would list her husand, children, marriage etc....................... That may help with your search.

There were of 3 deaths for William Tout, between 1861 and 1893 but which one could it be, if at all? That's why I suggest get Rose's Death Cert. If you already have it, I don't know...........................

Les

Unless someone else was fathering the children, I would probably pass on the 1861 :)  - so parents may be Thomas and Catherine or William and Clara. Marriage certificate gives mother as Elizabeth  ??? - I wonder if it is possible that he left them & went back to UK?

The NSW transcript agents, for a lesser fee will check one item - so the two deaths could be fairly cheaply checked to see if either is the right William

I'll check if any of these parents appear on the census in Devon with a William

Trish

James and Eliza (parents of the William who died 1861, were having children in NSW in 1840s). Shame the death was 1861, as the mother's name matches!

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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 08:18 BST (UK) »
Without errors, this is what I find in 1841 - not much to be found in 1851

1841 HO107/ 271/2  8/9 Devon Charles the Martyr - Plymouth
10 Row Street
William Tout Butcher 35
Elizabeth do 35
William Tout 10
John Tout 9
Sarah Street 50 (not sure if with household)
All Touts born in County

1841 HO107/ 240/15 6/7 Devon Egg Buckland
Thornbury
William Tout 30 ag lab
Charlott do 30
William do 12
Rhoda do 1
All born in County

HO107/266/14 5/5 Devon St Edmond Exeter
St Edmond Street
Mary Tout 33 seamstress
John do 12
Mary do 9
William do 7
James do 4

Same Address
George Tout 25 sawyer
Mary do 26
Elizabeth do 5
William do 4
John do 2
Emanuel do 1mo

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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 08:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,
       Thanks for that I guess it could be the first one he would of  been born about 1833 and must of came to oz sometime between then and when he go married in1859
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Re: TOUT in Devon
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 April 11 15:24 BST (UK) »
Hello Yazzie, I don't know what country you are in.
And it's been 3 years since your post, so I hope you check back.

I'm pretty sure that I have your Rose 'MACO' in my tree.
I have a Rose Meehan born County Cavan, Ireland about 1838.
Her mother:  SUSAN McMAHON !!
Father: Patrick MEEHAN
She moved to Liverpool England with her parents (probably about 1840)
most of the kids were born in Liverpool England.

They all immigrated to Sydney, Australia in 1855 (where one other child was born)
They settled in Liverpool! - a western outer suburb of Sydney now.
Then it would've been a different town west of Sydney.
Patrick's father who was living in Sydney paid for their immigration.
Pat's father, Owen Meehan, was a convict to Australia in 1832.
He stole a pig in Ireland and got 7 years.  His wife Rose HAND was dead and he
had seven children in Ireland.  (Patrick is only one that I'm sure of) recently found 2
probable sisters for Pat.

I haven't been able to find a partner for Rose, now I know why with the weird spelling.
I have found our history in Australia (and England) under Mackin, McKin, Meecham etc etc!

I'm descended from one of Rose's brothers.
When I just check the list of kids I'll post again.          from Lyn Meehan, Australia