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Offline william james

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R M E E in Italy
« on: Saturday 13 September 08 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Could someone please tell me when the R M E E  where stationed in Italy please, my uncle was with them and in Italy, but i want to try to find out when he could have been on leave in the U K please.
My uncle was Benjamin Owen Wilson and he was in Milan.
Thank you.
William James
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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 September 08 17:01 BST (UK) »
The Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers would have been involved in the invasion of Italy, and the subsequent campaign (ie right through to 1945). It wasn't one large homogenous unit, but companies were spread all over other units. REME units would have been located with Transport units, Armored units etc. So one would need to ascertain which company etc he was with to try to locate where he may have served, leave etc

It would probably require getting his service records

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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 September 08 23:38 BST (UK) »
Hi K.
Thankyou for your reply, I am going to obtain his service record as soon as i can afford it.
I did not realize that the R M E E where intigrated into all regiments this will make what i am looking for impossible until i get his service record.
Thank you again for your help.
William James
Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.

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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 September 08 21:33 BST (UK) »
A brief history of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers:
 
At the outset of WW2, the maintenance and repair of equipment was largely in the hands of individual Regiments and several of the then extant Corps. Such as the Royal Army Ordinance Corps, the Royal Army Service Corps, Royal Engineers and so on.
This led to much conflict of interest, some ridiculous and very ingenious indenting for spares and tools and very disparate standards of efficiency from Unit to Unit. It was almost impossible to enforce best practices under such circumstances and efficiency was falling off rapidly at a time when a uniformly high standard was desperately needed.
 
 As a result of decisions made by a Cabinet Committee formed to overcome this problem, chaired by Sir William Beveridge. It was decided that a single Corps should be set up to deal with maintenance and repair of all Army equipment. To that end, the nexus of the Royal Electrical & Mechanical Engineers was formed in 1942. From the very beginning the newly formed Corps was designated Royal, a significant honour and indicative of the faith engendered in it's innate ability to deliver the goods as required.
 
Many Tradesmen from the RAOC, RASC and the RE's were transferred to the newly minted REME, immediate steps were also taken to provide trade training and even Apprentice facilities for the new Corps. Because of the exigencies of the War and the difficulties in seperating everything at once, with resultant chaos and resentment from established chains of command, it was decided to implement the changeover in two phases.
 
Initially, in Phase one, each Regiment kept a small cadre of personnel on strength to do running repairs to vehicles and equipment. RASC Transport Company's kept, for the time being, their own Base Workshops and the RE's continued to maintain their own specialised equipment such as Construction plant and Railway Rolling stock. All Regiments and other units were affiliated to a Field or Base Workshop run by REME for their secondary and major repairs.
 
REME's first test came in the form of the Battle of El Alamein and it's ability to rapidly restore damaged vehicles and equipment to battle readiness was sorely tested but emerged triumphant. This was instrumental in enabling Monty's lads to keep up the pressure that soon broke the Afrika Korps and the Italian Army's ability to stand and slog it out. REME's policy of providing repair facilities, known as Field Workshops, as close to the "Front" as possible was a great success.
 
As a direct result of this success, REME continued to expand throughout the remainder of WW2 and soon became the biggest Corps in the British Army, reaching its maximum personnel strength of 160,000 all ranks in May 1945. Another result of the successful transition of the new Corps was the appearance of identical Formations within all Empire and Commonwealth Armed forces, modelled exactly on the original REME concept.
 
In 1949, Phase two of the reforms was implemented and this was completed by 1952. This saw all Regimental light repair facilities come under REME aegis and all workshops and vessel repair facilites of RASC vehicle and boat Company's under REME control.
 
In 1958 the RAF relinquished control of Army Light Aviation repair and maintenance to REME. After a slow start, the Army Air Corps component of REME stands today at 9% of total personnel.
 
Gradually all other repair and maintenance facilities, with the singular exception of the RE's Construction plant, have come under REME's umbrella. So todays Craftsman may be a Technician in the Information Technology field, or a Locomotive Engineer, Vehicle Mechanic of various sorts, Airframe/Engine Technician, even a Maritime Tradesman. Clerks and Storemen play vital roles too, as do Armourers and Instrument Technicians, Radar Tech's, Recovery Mechanics and so on.
 
The Royal Electrical & Mechanical Engineers encompasses as wide a range of Trades and skills as does any comparable organisation in the World. It was and is, without a shadow of a doubt, the driving force behind the British Army as we know it today.
 
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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 02:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeff.
Thank you for all that information, it fits in with what i know about my uncle. He was a dispatch rider before he went into the R E M E. And then spent the rest of the war in Italy. Now all i have to do is wait till i get paid and then send for his service record.
Thanks again.
William James
Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.

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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 September 08 00:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeff.
Thank you for all that information, it fits in with what i know about my uncle. He was a dispatch rider before he went into the R E M E. And then spent the rest of the war in Italy. Now all i have to do is wait till i get paid and then send for his service record.
Thanks again.
William James

If he was a despatch rider then he was possibly Royal Signals before rebadging to the REME.  Not sure if that helps but it is something?
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Re: R M E E in Italy
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 September 08 05:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Certacito.
Thank you for that info, i am not sure if he was in the Royal Signals or not, but i am going to send for his service record.
From his first marriage cert i now have his service number 5834999 and it says he was a Craftsman R E M E vehicle mechanic.
Thanks again for your help.
William James.
Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.