Henderson

[grada]

Hi All,

On the birth certificate of Elizabeth's youngest son Charles, it has her marriage to Alexander Davie being on the 11th or 18th of Nov 1846 at Auchterderran.  On her death certificate she died aged 44, 4 weeks after giving birth.  Her father is John Henderson outdoor labourer deceased and it  has her mother as Janet Allan deceased.

Alexander remarried Jane Wallace in 1872 at Aberdour Fife.

You are right Jap, Alexander Davie was the son of George Davie and Janet Kinnell, I have a lot of information on the Kinnell and Davie lines but Janet is my stumbling block.

I'll have to keep trying,
Thanks everyone for your help
Grada

[MonicaL]

This looks like a better fit in 1841 for Elizabeth Henderson with her family. Everyone showing as born in the county apart from mother Janet:

John Henderson 55, agri. lab.
Janet Henderson 55, b. Scotland
Betsy Henderson 16
Livinia Henderson 12
Robert Aitken    3

Address: Craig-end, Auchterderran

[MonicaL]

Mother Janet and Lavinia daughter in 1851:

Janet Allan 64, b. Kinnoul Perth
Levinia Red Henderson 22 agri. lab., b. Auchterderran
Robert Aitken 13, grandson, b. Auchterderran

Address: West Strathore Cottage, Dysart Fife

A likely marriage for Levinia to a David Dick on 17 NOV 1856 Cramond, Midlothian (their marriage cert. will let you confirm parents and whether they were alive/ deceased, although likely father John had died by 1851). Also the birth of a daughter, Janet DICK, on 1 SEP 1857 in Auchtertool.

Monica

[grada]

Hi Monica,

Thank you for all your effort, its looks like you may have found them for me.  I forgot to mention that Elizabeth was known as Betsy. I will check marriage for Livinia as you suggest and see what I find.

Thanks again
Regards Grada

[grada]

I have checked the marriage certificate for Livinia Henderson and David Dick,as suggested, and it has her parents as John Henderson and Janet Allan both deceased, the same as Elizabeth's.  I then checked the details for the child Robert Aitken who was mentioned in the 1841 census,and it has his parents as Margaret Henderson and Alexander Aitken, Margaret was a daughter of John Henderson and Janet Allan also. Then went on the lds igi index and found the birth details of six siblings to Margaret Henderson,they where all born in Denny Stirling Scotland.  I have still not found the birth of Elizabeth and Livinia even though I tried Scotlandspeople, no luck there.  I now believe that Elizabeth was the daughter of John Henderson and Janet Allan who married in Denny Stirling on 1st April 1803, and that she was the sister of Margaret.

After about two years of trying, with help from people on here I think I've finally cracked it(hopefully).  A big thank you

Grada

[MonicaL]

That's great Grada, I'm pleased you found confirmation. Good luck with everything 

Monica

[JAP]

Good news, Grada!

I'd noted down those Denny STI people but decided not to post them    as the names are not uncommon ...

And there's still a need for further confirmation that John HENDERSON & Janet ALLAN who m in Denny STI in 1803 are the right parents rather than John HENDERSON & Janet ALLAN who have marriage entries in Kinnoul and Kinfauns PER in 1812 ... (especially as your Janet has birthplace as Kinnoul in the 1851; and as births for Lavinia and Elizabeth haven't been found).

Just in case it helps anyone (especially Monica who always finds things!) here's what I noted down but didn't post.

John HENDERSON (father John HENDERSON) m Janet ALLAN 1 Apr 1803, Denny STI  (there's also an LDS submission giving the place as Falkirk).
Probable children of the Denny couple from the IGI:?
John bap 19 Feb 1804 Denny STI
Janet bap 22 Sep 1805 Denny STI
Margaret bap 14 Aug 1807 Denny STI (d 1857 a/c an LDS submission)
Agnes bap 5 Jun 1811 Denny STI (m John BENNIE a/c an LDS submission)
Christian bap 23 May 1813 Denny STI
Robert bap 3 Sep 1815 Denny STI
James b 15 May 1821 Denny STI
Thomas b 12 Mar 1823 Kilsyth STI (or might he belong to the next couple?)

Probable children of John HENDERSON & Janet ALLAN (who have 1812 marriage entries in Kinnoul/Kinfauns) from the IGI:?
Janet Forrester bap 26 Feb 1813, Forteviot PER
John b 14, bap 21 Aug 1814 Forteviot PER
Alexander b 26 Jun 1816 Rhynd PER

It would be good to find out Margaret (HENDERSON) AITKEN's age; that should be a good indicator ...

From FreeCEN, we find in the 1841 in Cramond Midlothian the following at Dowies Mill:
AITKEN Alex'r 28 Paper Maker
AITKEN Thomas 25 Paper Maker
AITKEN Marg't 26
AITKEN Alison 1
All b Midlothian.
{IGI has, for Alexander AITKEN & Margaret HENDERSON, children Alison bap Oct 1839, Thomas bap May 1843, Elizabeth bap Dec 1845, and Robert bap Sep 1848 - all Cramond, MDL}

So this would give a birth year for Margaret (HENDERSON) AITKEN of 1815 - which suggests she might be a child of the Perthshire, rather than the Stirlingshire, couple?  And thus that Elizabeth (Betsey) too is a child of the Perthshire couple ...

More work to be done?

JAP

[JAP]

And something else I looked up yesterday was Janet's 1855 birth - not a lot of help.

Janet DAVIE b 1855 Kinghorn; father Alexander DAVIE Farm Servant 27 b Calaloe, Aberdour; mother Betsey DAVIE ms HENDERSON, her 5th child, 28 b Woodend, Auchterderran; married 1845 Pitcairn, Aberdour; 3 boys living, 1 boy dead.

Might be worth searching the pre-1855 Fife deaths CD ...

JAP

[JAP]

Just to tie things up ...

It looks as though Margaret HENDERSON, daughter of the Denny couple, married a Matthew WATSON and died in Denny STI in 1857 ...
{IGI has for this couple extracted entries for children Janet b 1831 Barony LKS: Isabella bap 1834, Margaret bap 1838, Jean Gardner bap 1841,  John bap 1843 all Denny STI - there are also some LDS submissions for marriage and children}

So we're sort of back to scratch in trying to find out more about the couple who were the parents of Betsey HENDERSON who m Alexander DAVIE, and of Margaret HENDERSON who m Alexander AITKEN, and of Lavinia HENDERSON ...

JAP