Alfred Pope

[Malcolm173]

Yes, this is all really interesting - especially the 1868 police report, thank you!  It's great that you found the 1861 census as well.

He's not really a role model is he?  It makes it seem more likely that he's also the Alfred Pope who married Kate Dunstan....

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The below is on findmypast, wonder who Amy names as her father and his occupation.

Pope
Amy Martha
1864
—
1892
Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages
Southsea, St Bartholomew, Hampshire, England

John

[osprey]

parish entry is on Findmypast , and father is named as Alfred Pope, draper.

[softly softly]

Thanks osprey

John

[wilcoxon]

Amy  married James Pearce.

If you have the marriage certificate to Kate, are there any clues as to why they were in Wales.  Place of abode and wittnesses names.

Another thought is getting the marriage certificate to Martha and comparing his signature,  he must have been literate.

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Wonder what happened with this daughter.

POPE, KATE  RUDOLPHINA     mother's maiden name DUNSTAN 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in OF CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 252

John

[Malcolm173]

That's a good idea Wilcoxon about the marriage certificates but I'm not sure the one with Kate helps much because it looks as though the same person wrote all of it.  I've attached a copy (I've had to do a screenshot to keep within the size of the file you can upload).

Kate probably moved from Cornwall to Wales because her parents and some of her siblings moved there.  Her parents (John & Caroline Dunstan) and most of the family were in Penpol in Cornwall in 1871 census but had moved to Swansea by the 1881 census.  I found any clues yet as to why Alfred Pope moved there.

I'll order the marriage certificate of Albert Whitehouse and Martha Pope and see what that tells us about her status.  I expect it will say she was a widow though.

I can’t answer John’s question at the moment!

[wilcoxon]

Yes, that is a copy , you would need the original.  At least it was in a Church , perhaps they are online somewhere but Wales was a bit reluctant in letting their registers be recorded at one time.

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Pope
Kate Rudolphina
—
—
1881-85
British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Bilbao, Spain

A possibility, but I cant read the image or transcript on FindMyPast

John