BENNETT from Aspley Guise for benben

[janan]

Unfortunately I am not in possession of the original - it resides with cousins who don't have access to digital media - of any description. 

That's a shame. Still it is a lovely picture. Thanks again for posting it. I don't have any photos of Mary Ann (my grandad's mum) but have collected quite a few of her relations

Cheers
Jan

[janan]

Hi Juben

Cazza and Carolyn have done amazing things with Annie

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=417923.new#new

Jan

[bedfordshire boy]

WOW! That IS impressive

[janan]

WOW! That IS impressive

Isn't it! They are incredibly clever people over on the restoration board

Jan

[Tom Tramp]

Hi Juben,

I've been interested in what you wrote below about the letter from FJB to his cousin Benjamin Bennett the brewer. In the 1841 census there is a Benjamin Bennett living with your FJB's family. I think this Benjamin was my gt gt grandfather, born in 1827 to Amelia (or Emily) Bennett at Dunstable. Amelia herself was born at Aspley Guise around 1798 and I presume she would have been John's sister, and FJB's cousin. I know anyway that at some stage Benjamin left Bedfordshire and went off to live his life as a baker in London's East End. He died at Mile End in Dec 1902

Benjamin Bennett, the Dunstable hat maker and brewer was also born in Aspley Guise, in 1809. And didn't he have a son called Benjamin too? So perhaps the answer is that your gt gt grandfather had two Benjamin Bennett cousins!

Sorry these remarks come rather late, but hope you are still interested. For my part, I'd be fascinated to see a compete list of John's siblings, on which I hope Amelia is already to be found.

Hi there Australind

I have just joined Rootschat and would like to find out more about the Bennetts of Aspley Guise.  I am descended from John Bennett b 31 Oct 1807 to John and Elizabeth Bennett of Aspley Guise.  I believe that John is the brother of your ancestor Elizabeth.

John and his wife Sarah Gibbard were married in Luton 13 Jan 1831 and had at least 5 children that I have been able to trace (via IGI).  They died of typhoid around 1844 when my gggrandfather Frederick Jabez (FJB) was born.  FJB emigrated to NZ in 1863 (aged 19) with a brother Thomas and a sister Ann.  I can find no record of Thomas' birth and no record of what happened to him or Ann after they came to NZ.  For a time, we thought Thomas was from the previous generation of Bennetts but recently uncovered a letter from FJB to his cousin Benjamin Bennett the brewer that describes Thomas as his brother (not uncle).

I am really trying to tie together all the Bennetts as there are so many Williams, Johns and Thomas's!  I have only found 10 children of John and Elizabeth, not the 14 you mention.

Separately, I am trying to track Sarah Gibbard's lineage.  All I know is that her father was William Gibbard of Lewsey Farm.  There were also Bennetts at Lewsey Farm (a William) so am wondering whether there might be a wider connection between Bennetts and Gibbards.

Thank you - any pointers appreciated.  Juben

[OzJen]

Hi Tom,

Just seen your email regarding Benjamin Bennett. I, too, like Juben, am descended from Frederick Jabez Bennett (FJB), who was my g-g-grandfather. I have several Benjamin Bennetts in the family tree so far, but not one born in 1827 to Amelia/Emily Bennett. This is very interesting. There was a Benjamin Bennett living with FJB's family who was born in 1839 and died in 1849. He was a brother of FJB. I have 3 sons for Amelia, but none named Benjamin. I'd love to hear more about this to see if we can find a link. 

The Benjamin Bennett FJB was writing to was his paternal uncle, not a cousin, but Benjamin is certainly a family name ...

Regards,
OzJen

[Tom Tramp]

Thanks OzJen,
Here are some abbreviated notes I made earlier about Amelia's life after the birth of Benjamin, so please let me know how this fits in with your information.

On 17th November 1831, she married George HERBERT at Dunstable.

In 1841, at Church Street, Dunstable were
George Herbert 40 Ag Lab
Amelia Herbert 40
William Herbert 9
Henry Herbert 10m
Elizabeth Allen 20
Elizabeth Pickering 15
Sarah Allen 15

1851 does not cast much more light. William still lives at home, but Henry is no longer in sight.

Sarah Allen abt 1832 Middleton Stony, Oxfordshire, Lodger Dunstable Bedfordshire
Ann Awood abt 1833 Handon, Suffolk, Lodger Dunstable Bedfordshire
Sarah Awood abt 1830 Handon, Suffolk, Lodger Dunstable Bedfordshire
Kegle Bennet abt 1850 Old St Lukes, London, Grandson Dunstable Bedfordshire
Mary A Fox abt 1834 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, Lodger Dunstable Bedfordshire
Amelia Herbert abt 1798 Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire, Wife Dunstable Bedfordshire
George Herbert abt 1800 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, Head Dunstable Bedfordshire
William Herbert abt 1832 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, Son Dunstable Bedfordshire

I have not studied further than this, so assuming these William and Henry Herberts are two of the sons you have, then who is the third?

By the way, the Kegle Bennet mentioned above is the son of Benjamin by his first wife, Elizabeth Susannah Kegele, who died during childbirth or shortly after.

Regards

Tom

[OzJen]

Hi Tom,

I'm also replying off-list so we can sort this out between us. Certainly, we are related through Amelia's parents, so I'm pleased to have found you! The RootsChatter Juben will also be related, as well as Australind, who is related through one of Amelia's sisters.

I have 2 children for Amelia born before her marriage to George. They are:
Eliza Ann Seathans BENNETT, b April 1821, d. May 1821
Benjamin Nicols BENNETT (BNB) - (who I've just worked out must be the Benjamin you are referring to?) baker, b. Oct 1827, m. Elizabeth Susannah KEGELE in 1850.
Then I have
William BENNETT, b. abt 1832, f. George, m. Amelia
George BENNETT, b. 1833 d. 1841, f. George, m. Amelia
Henry Bennett, b. 1841 d. 1846, f. George, m. Amelia

Regards,
OzJen

[Juben]

Greetings Tom Tramp - great to find another long lost cousin!  Just to correct and add to a couple of things OzJen mentioned, the letter from FJB was to his cousin Benjamin Bennett, brewer and mayor of Dunstable (BB2), son of the original Benjamin Bennett brewer, his uncle (BB1).  BB1 was the brother of your ancestor Amelia (Emily).  Emily is therefore FJB's aunt rather than cousin.

You are also correct in that your gt gt grandfather Benjamin was living with FJB’s family at the time of the 1841 census, as follows: Edward (3) living in North Place, Luton, Beds with parents plus sister Ann (9), brothers John (5), Edward (3) and Benjamin (1 – whom OzJen rightly refers to as having died in the workhouse in 1849) plus cousin Benjamin (14), apprentice baker and Benjamin Adams (25) shoemaker, presumably a boarder.  So, yes, FJB (b 1844) had two Benjamin cousins!

I will post the list of Amelia and John’s siblings separately – which I got from Australind last year.  Very happy to continue chatting offline with you and Ozjen so we can piece together more of the jigsaw.

Chat again soon.  Regards, Juben