BENNETT from Aspley Guise for benben

[trish1120]

OK I made a big mistake with 1841 census as there are extra people listed on the actual image that are not listed on Ancestry summary page

I have amended it.
Sarah Gibbard/Bennett is not born in County

Could this be her christening;

Sarah GIBBARDS
08 June 1812, Bloxham, Oxford, England
Parents WILLIAM and MARY
Only female siblings on batch,
Ann GIBBERDS, 19 August 1810
MaryGIBBERDS, 06 January 1807

+
William GIBBARD, 04 May 1814, Bloxham, Oxford

Possible marriage;
Wm GIBBERD
Mary KNIGHT
1807, Bicester, Oxford
( oxford marriage transcripts 1538-1837)

All extracted records IGI

[Orpheus]

From FreeBMD:

Birth Mar Qtr 1842 Luton Reg Dist Thomas Albert BENNETT

Death Mar Qtr 1848 Luton Reg Dist Sarah BENNETT
Death June Qtr 1849 Luton Reg Dist John BENNETT

In 1861 Edward and family are living in Marsworth, Buckinghamshire.  There is no such place as Rochester in Buckinghamshire - it is in Kent.

Also have concerns re baptism of Sarah GIBBARD in Oxfordshire.  This is some distance from Bedfordshire and there were GIBBARD families in Buckinghamshire and Hertfordshire which are closer.  Do you have proof that Sarah's father was William?

Orpheus

[trish1120]

Hi Orpheus ,

Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate it. Hopefully Juben will be able to answer yor question. Not sure how I mucked up the Census entry. I will look at it again when I get home from work

Cheers,
Trish

[Juben]

That is just brilliant!!  I can't thank you and Orpheus enough for your help on this - this is definitely a breakthrough as so many things add up, including the fact that a Joseph Flemons married Elizabeth Bennett of Aspley Guise (FJB's aunt) so they obviously took Edward in as a servant to help out with the grim situation the family found itself in after the deaths of their parents.  I had vaguely heard that FJB had been in a workhouse but it was not confirmed.  I have only ever had loose bits of 1851 Census info before but it does match with what you have given.  The 1841 Census joins the dots and I agree with your assessment re the Benjamins. B Adams was possibly a boarder and maybe FJB's eventual teacher?

I think too that FJB must have confused some of the facts owing to his traumatic childhood - he obviously thought his parents died earlier than they did because he can't remember them.  I think the next thing for me will be to get hold of the death certificates for John and Sarah to confirm their parentage - 1848 seems to be the only year that there is a match.  It is only FJB's letter that mentions Sarah's father as being William Gibbard - this could be wrong given the variations on some of his other 'facts'.

Thank goodness they did emigrate!  FJB married well in NZ, became a draper and had 16 children!  We think Thomas 'went bush' but now I have an approx death date for him (via the letter I mentioned) will check the NZ BDM records to see if he shows up (we only found the letter a week or so ago when going through old family papers so it's very exciting).

Thank you so much for your help - it is much appreciated.

[bedfordshire boy]

I think the next thing for me will be to get hold of the death certificates for John and Sarah to confirm their parentage - 1848 seems to be the only year that there is a match. 

English death certificates don't include details of parents

A good guide to what can be found on Englsih certificates can be found at http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm

[trish1120]

FREDERICK BENNETT

1861 Census
47 Chapel Street,
Christchurch, Bedfordshire
RG9/1013/116A/27

William UNDERWOOD, 34, mar, Boot and Shoemaker, born Beds, Luton
Sarah, 34, wife, mar, born Beds, Bedford
Annie.S., daughter, 4mths, born Beds, Luton
Sarah BRIMLEY, 19, unm, journeyman, Shoe Binder, Beds,Chaphaan
Fanny Brimley, 17, servant, unm, house servant, Beds, Bedford
FREDERICK.J.BENNETT, 19,Apprentice, unm, Apprentice,    born LUTON, Bedfordshire
Richard HUCK, 15, unm, on trial apprentice, Beds, Hockliffe

Trish

[trish1120]

Birth;
Benjamin BENNETT
December 1839, Luton, 6 98

Death;
Benjamin Bennett
June 1849, Luton, 6 71

Trish

[arumlily]

Juben,
Have just read your message.Pleased to connect with another researching
Bennett from Aspley Guise.
Research so far indicates John/Elisabeth Bennett had 15children 12married of which all  had issue.
A John Bennett died 31March 1846 at Aspley Guise/38yrs/a Baker/from Water on the Chest/
Information given by Rebecca Tompkins,present at death.  Death registered 6thApril 1846
John Bennett Buried 4th April at A/G  "of A/G""
I have Bapt copies for 4 of the children of John/Sarah Bennett(Ann,Sarah Hannah Foll,John,
Edward) and on each of them Sarah Bennett is stated to be daughter of Edward and Hannah
Gibbard.
 
There is a Marriage for a John Bennett/23yrs/Batchelor/a Baker/living Luton/son of John Bennett a Baker to MaryDavis/24yrs/Spinster/livindgLuton/daughterofwilliam Davis.Farmer/ on 26thApril 1859 at Parish Church Luton

Regards ,Australind

[Orpheus]

This must be the marriage of Sarah GIBBARD's parents:

5 Apr 1804 at Greatworth, Northamptonshire - Edward GIBBARD and Hannah FOLLS

Orpheus