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John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« on: Tuesday 09 September 08 18:19 BST (UK) »
John Ashton b 1848 Heaton Norris maried to Elizabeth Nuttall b 1848.

John's father on marriage certificate in Heywood Lancashire is John b 1817.

I am looking for confirmation on John Ashton 1848 parents being
John Ashton 1817 and Anne Bower 1815.

Thanks for any help ahead of time ......Moe

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Ashton, Heywood, Lancashire, Stockport Cheshire.
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Moe
On the IGI there is a John ASHTON marrying an Ann BOWER at the Cathedral 25 October 1847 .
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 20:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Moe,

          Welcome to Rootschat :)

    Not sure when your John married but could this be his family?
          1871 in Heaton Norris
           RG10 / 3657 / 95 / 41

John Ashton head age 54 b New Mill, Derbyshire
Ann wife age 56 b Heaton Norris
John son age 23 b Heaton Norris occ house joiner
Ann dau age 21 b Heaton Norris
William son age 19 b Heaton Norris occ joiner
Frederick son age 17 b Heaton Norris occ book keeper cotton ? merchant
Alfred son age 15 b Levenshulme Lancs occ book keeper ship merchant
Edmund son age 13 b Levenshulme, Lancs


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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 22:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks HM ....I do have that date but I believe there are 4 John Ashtons b 1848 in Stockport/ Heaton Norris etc. area . I was in Stockport last May but the Monday I had free was the bank holiday so I was unable to go to the library.  Have  a good day ...Moe


Hello Moe
On the IGI there is a John ASHTON marrying an Ann BOWER at the Cathedral 25 October 1847 .
Eric
Jones...Llannfwrog, Ruthin, Denbighshire.
Ashton, Heywood, Lancashire, Stockport Cheshire.
Heap.....Heywood, Bolton, Lancashire.
McManus Galway, Ireland.
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,

You are correct they are the family I have listed, however my understanding the 1871 census was April 2nd 1871 this shows .....John son age 23 (1848) born Heaton Norris res. Travis Brow occ house joiner. Six days later the 8th April 1871 John marries Elizabeth Nuttall at St Lukes, Heywood, Lancashire age 23 born 1848 address Rochdale Road Heywood occ Cotton Oper. father's name John Ashton occ Pipe Maker. From their marriage certificate.

So I am not too sure if he is the right John Ashton from Stockport there are 4 or 5 born 1848 plus 1847 to 1849 .

Have a good day ... Moe








Hi Moe,

          Welcome to Rootschat :)

    Not sure when your John married but could this be his family?
          1871 in Heaton Norris
           RG10 / 3657 / 95 / 41

John Ashton head age 54 b New Mill, Derbyshire
Ann wife age 56 b Heaton Norris
John son age 23 b Heaton Norris occ house joiner
Ann dau age 21 b Heaton Norris
William son age 19 b Heaton Norris occ joiner
Frederick son age 17 b Heaton Norris occ book keeper cotton ? merchant
Alfred son age 15 b Levenshulme Lancs occ book keeper ship merchant
Edmund son age 13 b Levenshulme, Lancs


                     Sue :)

Jones...Llannfwrog, Ruthin, Denbighshire.
Ashton, Heywood, Lancashire, Stockport Cheshire.
Heap.....Heywood, Bolton, Lancashire.
McManus Galway, Ireland.
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 September 08 23:57 BST (UK) »
John Ashton1817 and Ann Bower 1815 were not parents of John Ashton 1848 who was married to Elizabeth Nuttall and he was not from Heaton Norris.

I have now John Ashton 1848  (or 1847 depending on birth to census date). Married Elizabeth Nuttall 8th April 1871 both shown as 23 on marriage certificate at St Lukes Heywood his father name is John, Pipe Maker her mother Alice Nuttall spinster.

John 1848 children all born in Heywood, Robert 1866, William 1871,Mary Alice 1873, Joseph Thomas 1875, John Ashton 1879, James Ashton 1880.

Any help on John 1848 or any of his children would be appreciated...Have a nice day Moe.
Jones...Llannfwrog, Ruthin, Denbighshire.
Ashton, Heywood, Lancashire, Stockport Cheshire.
Heap.....Heywood, Bolton, Lancashire.
McManus Galway, Ireland.
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 September 08 12:26 BST (UK) »
see also http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=328932.new#n

Hi Moe,
it's best to cros reference the postings just so that there is no duplication of information - as I said on the other post, I have the family in 1891 but not 1881 yet. There is no Robert in 1891 - you have him born 1866 - but they didn't marry until 1871 - is that right?
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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 September 08 12:57 BST (UK) »
Well I think I have them now - but still a bit confusing

1881 RG11; Piece: 3854; Folio: 70; Page: 23

Elizabeth as Betty - children the same as 1891 but with Robert 15 yrs   and young James - who I assume dies before 1891?

The places of birth are also swapped with Betty- Stockport and John-Heywood
John is also 31 yrs b abt 1850.   

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Re: John Ashton - Elizabeth Nuttall
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 September 08 13:20 BST (UK) »
Robert seems to be Elizabeth's child - He is Robert S Nuttall on 1871 and Robert S Nutter lodger in 1901 with Elizabeth and sons.
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