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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 11:00 BST (UK) »
HI Trish
thats agood photo albeit sad
but i just wanted to comment isn't it strange how nobody ever dies your relatvies were lost at sea
but a lot of people fall to sleep or were taken from us. :-\

and Yes if Tom posts all the info. he has we will be able to help him better and save duplicating what he has already got,  ::)
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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:32 BST (UK) »
 :o  :o  :o I don't think I can believe what I am reading

I wrote "Can anyone living in the eastern part of Fife give me information ........" Since the State of Victoria in Australia is a long way from Fife,

Are you seriously suggesting that

a) you can choose who gives you information

and

b) the fact that someone lives a long way from Fife disqualifies them from helping you?

If the latter is the case, why do you bother to put up the post on a worldwide forum?

you know little about this part of Scotland, why your interest?

Sadly I know little about this part of Scotland. Going by your criteria it seems this disqualifies me from being interested in it, which is silly to say the least.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:55 BST (UK) »
Point of information:


The Bass Rock is part of East Lothian:

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 18:22 BST (UK) »
I would have offered to help but unfortunately I live in Central/West Fife   :(

Good luck

George



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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 20:33 BST (UK) »
Despite also being excluded from participating in this thread  :), I decided to post the following as it helps demonstrate the point the other contributors have been trying to make - you don't have to be in an area to help!

From Caledonian Mercury 8 March 1849
Loss of a Fishing Boat and Seven Lives - On Tuesday night week, the fishing boat Mary of Pittenweem, with a crew of seven men, went to sea in prosecution of their perilous employment, with sanguine expectations that the night's toil would reward them with what would bring comfort to themselves and families ; but alas ! the poor fellows were destined never to return. The wind blew fierce all night, and towards morning increased to a hurricane; the boats were unable to keep the fishing-ground ; they were dispersed, and all strove to reach home in the best manner they could - one of them was driven so far west as Kirkaldy before it could gain a port; but all of them were spared to reach their homes again with the exception of five unfortunate crew of the Mary of Pittenweem. Skipper John Duncan, was the last man who saw and spoke to them. They were then somewhere near the Bass Rock, about three o'clock a.m. with the wind blowing a hurricane. Before the two boats parted company, poor Spence gave a parting advice to Duncan not to attempt any of the ports in the vicinity. The Mary shortly after disappeared. No one saw her go down, nor is there a single soul left to tell how the misfortune occurred. Oars were seen floating in the Forth, which are conjectured to belong to the ill-fated boat. The whole crew were married men, and most of them have left families to deplore their loss.- Pittenweem Register.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hi ,
Can I help as I,m in wet & windy Fife ?
Tom try the Scottish Fisheries Musem in Anstruther.Google them  they have a contact e-mail . Kirsty.
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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hi,

My, my. What a fuss! Let me release you from your rather heated discussion. Over recent months I have seen perfectly good Threads on RootsChat being disrupted by various people who, quite clearly, have not wished to add any useful information to the subject matter, but simply make rude and unhelpful comments about the original "poster". One such individual made that perfectly clear when she returned to the Fife Board after a self-imposed exile.

Let me make it clear that I wished to share with other researchers much of the information that members of my family and I had taken the trouble to accumulate. Bear in mind that members of my family took the trouble to drop into the Archives Department situated at Markinch in Fife and speak with people there. Others simply dropped into the Records Office at Edinburgh where they could spend a few hours each day searching the available records there. Now, why on earth would I want to search ScotlandsPeople when I simply had to pick up the phone or send a quick private e-mail to a member of my family?

Many people have become disenchanted with RootsChat because of the way that information is blocked or moved, and so prefer to communicate by the good, old-fashioned method of private e-mail with attachments. The great pity about that is that other people are unable to benefit from the information being transmitted.

Currently, my home office files contain a great deal of information about specific individuals and various families, including Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates. If I had been allowed to post that information without the interference of those people already mentioned, then a lot of people on RootsChat would have benefited from it.

I have been rather amused at some of the comments made on RootsChat, and have simply sat back and allowed some of those rather rude people to make themselves look rather foolish with their rather dismal attempts to cover up their obvious lack of first-hand knowledge of Fife and its people.

I am only disappointed that a few of you have been caught up in this rather disruptive scenario, but something had to be done, and as your postings are showing, you are just as tired as I am with it. There is no way that I will sit idly by and be dictated to by anyone, especially when that person is so clearly out to be merely disruptive. If people genuinely wish to receive perfectly good information on RootsChat, then, believe me, it can be provided, but without the intolerable rudeness being displayed by some.

Oh, incidentally, the individual who was drowned on the "Mary" off Bass Rock situated in the Firth of Forth, was John HEUGH. If my postings had not been blocked or moved, I would have been able to give you details about John who married Christian KEAY on 9th February, 1846 at Kilrenny. Their daughter, Janet Brown Heugh was born on 31st March, 1846 at Pittenweem and their son, Robert was born on 28th November, 1848 at Pittenweem. Now we can see why no more children were born. The name that I required was supplied by a person living quite close to Pittenweem.

I would thank those who genuinely sought to assist - that is greatly appreciated. To those of you who wish to continue with your disruptive tactics, I'm sure that you can find better things to do with your time.

Best wishes,


Tom.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 23:44 BST (UK) »


Hi again,

It would appear that JAP unintentionally said it all:

"All members of RootsChat should be free to comment and post on any thread whatsoever".

I'm sure that we would all agree with that, but the problem is, we are not free to comment and post on a Thread without such Thread being disrupted by unacceptable behaviour. Need I say any more?

Best wishes,


Tom.

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 00:04 BST (UK) »
Hello Tom

I'm a little confused about someone asking you to check SP. As the accident happened pre 1855 then SP wont give you the information you require. I cant see on the thread where anyone suggested using SP unless it has been deleted like some other posts on the Fife board.