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Offline trish251

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:27 BST (UK) »
Helen

Thank you so much for such an informative post. (& no doubt the kiwi will be along shortly  :) ). I have been wondering about the Fife FHS death CD, it seems to contain much more information than simply who died - I shall check how to buy it from Australia. With the number of Fife Roots I have, there must be many of my folks mentioned.

Trish
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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish

It's definitely worth purchasing!

Just in case this is of use to anyone in future here are the names given for the men who died in the Mary:

Peter Spence, Thomas Heugh, John Robertson, Andrew Christie, John Heugh, George Fairgrieve

Regards

Helen

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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:34 BST (UK) »
Helen .... :D


Thank you so much for such an informative post and for taking time out of this thread for answering my post.      It is very much appreciative.  

I will try out all these sources.

Thank you once again.

Cheers
KHP :)
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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Trish,

Go to the Fife FHS site at:
http://www.fifefhs.org/

Click on the 'Publications for sale' button at the left.

Then on 'Fife Family History Society Death Index'.

There are full details of how to purchase ...

JAP



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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks JAP - I'm checking that out too - I have more Fife ancestors than I can keep track of...trouble is, most of them seem not to have died!  ;D

Cheers

Prue

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 07:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks JAP - I'm checking that out too - I have more Fife ancestors than I can keep track of...trouble is, most of them seem not to have died!  ;D

Cheers

Prue

I think you have a wee problem - or are there lots of real old folks wondering around Fife  ;D

Trish

Thanks JAP, I'm sure I have checked before, My husband says I have the frugality of the Scots and think a long time about parting with his money  :) I will tell him the decision is now made  ;D


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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:10 BST (UK) »
tom,

Fortunately for me most of what needs to be said has already been said by other posters.

Can I simply say - you don't seem to have answered my questions in post 10 which were raised by your answer in post 3. I repeat them now:

a) why do you state that you want someone from Eastern Fife to answer the question?

b) why does (apparently) living far from Fife disqualify someone from answering?

c) why does lack of knowledge about a place apparently preclude someone from having an interest in that place?

These are well-intentioned questions and I am interested in your reply.

Jennifer

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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:19 BST (UK) »
Over recent months I have seen perfectly good Threads on RootsChat being disrupted by various people who, quite clearly, have not wished to add any useful information to the subject matter, but simply make rude and unhelpful comments about the original "poster".

I have not seen any of these and i am a regular poster on the boards, in whichever area the query arises.
we all do our best to help others with research

Let me make it clear that I wished to share with other researchers much of the information that members of my family and I had taken the trouble to accumulate. Bear in mind that members of my family took the trouble to drop into the Archives Department situated at Markinch in Fife and speak with people there. Others simply dropped into the Records Office at Edinburgh where they could spend a few hours each day searching the available records there. Now, why on earth would I want to search ScotlandsPeople when I simply had to pick up the phone or send a quick private e-mail to a member of my family?
I do not see the point of your request if you have wide access to all the records available.

If you would like to share your family history with other people then i suggest you write a book about same.
 this site is not really the place to do such, this site is like a chatroom forum dedicated to geneaology yes we do stray away from the subject thats why we have totally off the topic boards.

Many people have become disenchanted with RootsChat because of the way that information is blocked or moved, and so prefer to communicate by the good, old-fashioned method of private e-mail with attachments. The great pity about that is that other people are unable to benefit from the information being transmitted.

The only things that have been blocked or removed are what could be deemed as breach of the  copyright laws.
note i said could and not would.

have you read the copyright rules ?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/copyright.php

[quote author=tommacgregor link=topic=326553.msg2071974#msg2071974 date=122099953}
Currently, my home office files contain a great deal of information about specific individuals and various families, including Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates. If I had been allowed to post that information without the interference of those people already mentioned, then a lot of people on RootsChat would have benefited from it.
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you are lucky to hold such a wealth of information perhaps the above point I made affects this

I have been rather amused at some of the comments made on RootsChat, and have simply sat back and allowed some of those rather rude people to make themselves look rather foolish with their rather dismal attempts to cover up their obvious lack of first-hand knowledge of Fife and its people.

I am glad you find us funny,
We obviously do not all live in Fife, but where we do live does not always affect our ability to help others with queries relating to other parts of the world.

I am only disappointed that a few of you have been caught up in this rather disruptive scenario, but something had to be done, and as your postings are showing, you are just as tired as I am with it. There is no way that I will sit idly by and be dictated to by anyone, especially when that person is so clearly out to be merely disruptive. If people genuinely wish to receive perfectly good information on RootsChat, then, believe me, it can be provided, but without the intolerable rudeness being displayed by some.
If people are being disruptive the Mods can take the step to move them from the boards, this has happened in the past. If this has not been done in your senario  then obviously the people you refer to are not being disruptive as you claim.
If you do not want to use this forum then don't you make your own choices in this life, you can always choose to ignore  / not strike up a conversation the people you don't like.
Perhaps in your next post you can pose your question and then say so and so need not reply

Oh, incidentally, the individual who was drowned on the "Mary" off Bass Rock situated in the Firth of Forth, was John HEUGH. If my postings had not been blocked or moved, I would have been able to give you details about John who married Christian KEAY on 9th February, 1846 at Kilrenny. Their daughter, Janet Brown Heugh was born on 31st March, 1846 at Pittenweem and their son, Robert was born on 28th November, 1848 at Pittenweem. Now we can see why no more children were born. The name that I required was supplied by a person living quite close to Pittenweem.
If you knew all the inforamtion about the unfortunate person, then it somewhat confuses me as to why you bothered to ask the question in the first place.
I am sure your original post was not modified - for there is a bit at the bottom in italics that says last modified on such a such a date by whom.


Good day.

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Re: Drowned at Sea
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 09:40 BST (UK) »
My, my. What a fuss! Let me release you from your rather heated discussion.

Can I just add that the 'fuss' and 'heated conversation' was entirely caused by your posting and had you answered the reasonable question that was posed to you, i.e. do you know the persons name, none of this would have happened.

I will shut up now  :-X  and await your answer to my question
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