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Perthshire Death Records
« on: Monday 08 September 08 21:10 BST (UK) »
Are there any pre 1855 Death Records for Monzievaird available? And if there are, where can I get them.  I have ancestors who lived in the Monzievaird & Strowan area in the 18th century and early 19th century.

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 September 08 23:42 BST (UK) »
Maybe I'll be corrected.  Probably!!
I don't have any local knowledge but was interested in your post because I've found a remote link in my family to the area - very remote.
Anyway maple, according to the following link*,  Monzievaird & Strowan only existed from 1845. 
That kinda narrows down your search to the 19th C?

Having said that, there are a number of references on Google that predate 1845?

There's got to be someone on RC that has MI's for the area?

Dave

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ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 September 08 23:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

The Pre-1855 MI's for Monzievaird & Strowan are published in South Perthshire MI's pre 1855 Volumn 2 and the parish of Monzievaird dates back to the early 17th century

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 September 08 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hi  Both  :)


According to the GROS listing, burial records exist for Monzievaird for 1729-1819 (383/1) and 1820-1854(383/3) :

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/files1/family-records/list-of-oprs-323to398.pdf

These can probably be ordered from your local LDS Centre (see www.familysearch.org for details). Also the Crieff Office appear to hold them:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/PER/cemeteries.html


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Gadget


added - and Andy knows where the MIs can be obtained  :)
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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 19:06 BST (UK) »
You can also buy them online from scotsgenealogy.com.
If you are lucky someone may have copy.
I have the south perthshire -lower strathearn- book if there is anything I can help you with.
Rae
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Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 23:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Everybody,

Thank you for your interest and help. :)
I am researching a multi GGrandfather named William Kay.  He is listed on the 1851 census as living in Stirlingshire and born in Monievaird in 1770.  I am assuming that Monievaird is Monzievaird. 
William Kay is not listed on the 1861 census, so I am assuming that he died between 1851 and 1855, since I cannot find a record of his death.  If only he had held out for a few more years! >:(

I cannot find a record of a William Kay born in Monievaird or Monzievaird for 1770. 
But there is a Willam Key and an Ann Key (twins) born in Monzievaird in 1768 to a William Key and Catherine Malish.  My William Kay's second oldest daughter is named Catherine, so it is possible that that these are my William Kay's parents. I realize that I am grasping at straws, and there is no relationship at all.

There is also a record of an Ann Key marrying a Patrick Drummond in Monzievaird in 1794.  (Drummond is a sir name that pops up in a later generation)

I would like to find any kind of Death record for William Key, possibly born about 1740 and his wife Catherine Malish, born 1749 in Monzievaird, Perthshire.
I would also like to find a Death Record for Ann Key and her husband Patrick Drummond.

Andy, I believe that Kay/Key are common names in Perth.  I would be grateful if you could look up those names for me.  I will probably buy the book to look for others that may be related.

Thank you so much

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 11:47 BST (UK) »
Have had a look in my book but Wm & Cath aren't in it. There is Catherine Kay d. 2.2.1864 67 wife of Robt Buchan buried Fowlis Wester.
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 19:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Excel,

Thank you for looking.  Were these MIs or burial records?  So far I haven't found any evidence of deaths for any of my relatives pre 1855. 
Either they are still living or have been abducted by aliens. ;) :D

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Re: Perthshire Death Records
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 September 08 07:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

I've had a look through the MI's for South Perthshire Vol 2 and there are only a handful of Kay/Key but none are yours.

Is the William Kay living in Denny, Stirllingshire in 1851 census with daughters Catherine & Elizabeth yours? if so, was Margaret his wife? In the 1841 census, also in Denny,  there is a Margaret Kay age 65 born Stirlingshire. Perhaps Denny would be the best place to look for Williams burial.

Andy