Completed - Robert Bentley

[sonstar]

thats looking good for Jesse... although no robert!!

maybe wasnt born then as jesse was only 3ms.

yeah that is a connection to the mill thing with the cotton.

My problem is i dont know where this "jesse" was born... only where he lived and where he married.

i think the certificate is going to play a major part in this investigation! haha

[sonstar]

some one from local studies in bradford kindly emailed me this just now:

"I've looked through the Trade Directories and, although I couldn't find a Robert Bentley, there was a Bentley & Co., Stuff (woollen cloth) Merchants, on 38/42 Booth Street in the centre of Bradford from 1894 to 1912 approx.. This was the address of their warehouse. Of course, there is no guarantee these were the same Bentleys!"

Does this help anyone?

[lizdb]

I am  treading a little on Carol's toes here  as she has worked hard to find that family in 1881, and also 1891. I have now got them in 1901 too (I expect Carol has too).

Here are the details:

1891 (found by Carol, not me)
Baildon
RG12 3530 109 17
George 46 Cotton Warp dresser
Rachel wife 40
Lottie 17 worsted weaver
Mary Ann 15
Ettie 13
Jesse (indexed Jane!) 10
Edward 7
George William 5

and in 1901
Rg13 4067 83 33
Oak Place Baildon
William 57 Worsted warp dresser
Rachel 50
Charlotte 27 Worsted weaver
Mary A 25   "
Ettie 23   "
Jesse 20 Drapers assistant
Edward 17 Apprentice to AMrket gardener
George William 15 wool sorting.

I think it is highly likely that this is your Jesse's family.
Although they seemd to start in cotton, I always thought "worsted" was wool , though I may be wrong. Anyway, wool is gradually creeping in as little George sorts wool.

There is, alas, no Robert. But I do wonder if robert's name has been misremembered over theyears? could th emystery brother that Auntie Mabel visited possibly have actually been George William? or Edward?
( Could George William have been known as Robert to differentiate from father William and older brother George?)

Looking at the 1901, we know YOUR Jesse marries in 1907 - so will be interesting to see how old he was then and who his father was, and his occupation.  That will help confirm if this one in 1881/91/01 is the right Jesse.
If it is then sorry, there is not a brother called Robert unless born after 1901 - but mum is 50 so rather unlikely.

[lizdb]

I've looked on freeBMD at marriages for various Edwards and George Williams, but none marry a Brenda.
I still wonder if perhaps Robert and Brenda are Son and dtr in law of one of Jesse's brothers.....

[sonstar]

Thank you for that Liz, i think Robert Bentley is a different family group to Jesse Bentley

He was alive in 1970 - as he sent an xmas card to my grandfather, he knew him as uncle bob. was married to brenda, lived in baildon.

So i am assuming he was born around the 1900's - possibly the next generation down!!!

Hmmm ill keep looking... there were definately bentleys in that area - so grandad wasnt far off with his memories

[lizdb]

Aha - if Robert was alive in 1970's I think that rules out for sure that he was a brother of Jesse!
Looks very much as if he was a son of one of Jesse's brothers, as we thought, and so your grandad would be a secondcousin to him. Or maybe he is a grandchild of one of Jesse's brothers, making him actually a second cousin once removed to your grandad, whom he could well have called "uncle" for ease!

[sonstar]

thats what i was thinking... im trying to find directories for Baildon area - but its not easy haha

thanks for your help you are all brililant

[sonstar]

NEWS FLASH

I managed to track down my family in NZ and spoke to them this morning... he confirmed its an UNCLE BILL that lives in baildon and they visited them in 2000 - so should be alive still!!!

how do i get hold of info for Baildon?
does any one have records?

[lizdb]

So now we have a Bill (William?) alive in 2000 rather than a Bob (Robert) contemporary of Jesse born 1881. Seemed to have spanned three centuries.

I give up!

I suggest you get a lot more info about Bill/Bob/whoever from your rellies in NZ before even thinknig of looking for anything else. Is it really this Bill (current generation) you are interested in? Or are you actually trying to find a brother of your great grandad (as you were at beginning of thread).

If you are interested in this Bill - well he was visited in 2000 so you can check the deaths at least up to 2005 on FreeBMD. If he hasnt died (and hopefully the NZ rellies can give you an approximation of his age and state of health) then why not simply write to the address they saw him at and see if he is still there?