Pateley Bridge: monumental inscriptions

[Timbottawa]

Are there any resources out there, or anyone able to look up records of monumental inscriptions for Pateley Bridge?  I am interested in the NOBLE family from 1865-1915.

All the best
Tim

[beebee123]

Hello Tim, I have only recently registered with this site so you may be surprised to receive this - I notice you posted your request over a year ago!!
My daughter and I record MI's in the Pateley Bridge area and also work with the Nidderdale Museum. We are in the process of recording the cemetery which is currently undergoing major work reinstating damaged and fallen memorials. However I can offer the following information and hope this may be of help in your research:
These are all in the 'unconsecrated section' of the cemetery-
Dick Noble: Service date:11 Feb. 1883. Date of death: 8 Feb.1883. Age 6wks. Grave No 599.
Jane Noble:       "      "       1 Dec. 1915.   "      "    "     26 Nov.1915. Age 69yrs.    "        " 471.
Robert Noble     "      "     18 Dec. 1895.   "      "    "     15 Dec.1895. Age 35yrs.    "        "  471.
William Noble     "     "       7 Feb. 1912.   "       "    "      4 Feb. 1912. Age 96yrs.    "       "   471.
If you think we can help further do not hesitate to ask.
Best wishes in your research.
Barbara

[Timbottawa]

Hi Barbara,

Thanks so much for this information.  I had indeed forgotten that I had posted it, but as you will find on this site, it's amazing what eventually turns up!

96-year-old William was my 2xGt grandfather; Jane was his second wife.  Robert was his son, who I knew had died young, but I do not yet have his death certificate (he's an "off-shoot" of my family tree, so I haven't forked up the money for him yet!).  I don't know about 6-week-old Dick: Richard never married and William would have been 68 in 1883 - possibly the father, but I doubt it.  I think Dick was probably unrelated.

Can you tell me in what condition grave 471 is?

Many thanks again
Tim

[beebee123]

Hi Tim,
It's good to get something 'out of the blue' when you had forgetten all about it -  it re-kindles the interest.
I will certainly follow-up on grave 471 for you (and will also check 599 for any further hints - 'Noble' is not a well-known local name). As I said my daughter and I record MI's in Nidderdale but the weather here is so wet at the moment, and we are also busy preparing for the coming festive season, that our work has been put on hold. All being well we shall re-visit the cemetery early in 2010 so it may be some while before I get back to you but I won't forget and hopefully you will not have to wait as long again for a reply.  What was your last connection with Patley Bridge? I remember a Linda Noble who lived in the nearby village of Summerbridge or Dacre and many years ago (mid 1950's) I lived at Boroughbridge, nr. York and a Miss Noble lived in our street - she was about 90yrs old then - probably no connection but I expect she would be buried at Boroughbridge.
Best wishes for Christmas.
Barbara.

[Timbottawa]

Hi Barbara,

Well, I adre the work you and your daughter (and others) do, so you well deserve to sit out the raiy weather and enjoy the festive season!

My connection with Pateley Bridge is tenuous and somewhat curious, but of some interest to anyone interested in the local history!

Old William was something of a master engineer.  During his long career he worked in Norway, won an award from the King of the Belgians for work on their 1851 Great Exhibition exhibit, and worked in various parts of northern England, before settling in Pateley Bridge in the 1870's.  Around that time his daughter, Sarah, married a fellow called Alfred Boyle, of Bradford, my paternal great-grandfather, whose surname I share.  By the early 1880's, William was manager of the Boyle Brothers Mill at Fellbeck.  For a long time I thought the name of the mill was a mere coincidence, but earlier this year I discovered that the owner of the Boyle Mill was in fact a second cousin to Alfred, William's son-in-law.  I still don't know whether this is a coincidence or whether this was a family job for an elderly engineer who wanted to settle down.  Later, during the early years of the 20th century, he managed the Glasshouses Mill, and retired in his 90's!

Meanwhile, I have a connection with Boroughbridge - one of Alfred Boyle's sisters (Eliza Wright) moved there in the 1890s, and their father (James Boyle)moved in with her around 1900, dying there in 1907 (but he is buried in Leeds).  So those are my Boyles and Nobles, in Pateley Bridge and Boroughbridge - none of them hailing from there, but gravitating there in later life.

Cheers
Tim

[Timbottawa]

Sorry about the typing ... my keyboard seems to be cramping up!  I was trying to say that I ADMIRE the work you do, and you deserve to sit out the RAINY weather!

Cheers
Tim

[beebee123]

I've replied twice and each time have lost it when I clicked  'post' - hope it's third time lucky - here goes!!
Well, Tim, I am intrigued by your Boyle connection! Wow!
Fellbeck Mill, an old corn mill, was adapted for hemp spinning and rope making and was worked in the 1880's by Boyle & Sons (hence Boyles Mill). My husband was postman at Fellbeck up to his retirement in 1995 and delivered mail to the Boyles family who still lived at the Old Mill House - he remembers them well and also the old rope walk still being there. I don't know what happened to the family but I do know someone who was their neighbour and who still lives in the neighbouring farm who I could speak with.
Glasshouses Mill spun flax, making linen cloth and sewing thread and was developed by the very influential Metcalfe family who also owned local breweries and quarries.Their most prestigious contract was to spin yarn for the Great Exhibition in 1851 (now there's got to be a connection with your William Noble?!) Metcalfe's continued in flax until 1898 then turned to hemp and ropemaking and in 1912 the Atkinson family bought the mill and continued making ropes, etc., till its closure in 1970.   Your Boyle was manager. My late mother-in-law and her sister worked there and I know a local man who worked with Mr Boyle and could follow-up enquiries from him. I also have a friend at the Museum, who could no doubt tell me more.
AND, would you believe, there was a Boyle family living in the same street (New Row) at Boroughbridge where I grew up (yes the same street as Miss Noble previously mentioned) They were Jimmy (the name's the same?!), his wife (can't remember her name) and children Michael and Wendy - we all played together. I am still in contact with another childhood friend who actually lived next door to Miss  Noble and will ask if she remembers more.
Do let me know if you want to 'put more flesh on the bones' and I will follow enquiries in the New Year.
Bet this all surprises you??!!
Best wishes,
Barbara

[Timbottawa]

Hi Barbara,
It's great to meet up with someone so knowledgeable about the local history of Pateley Bridge.  All your information about the mills at Fellbeck and Glasshouses matches up with my information - but don't forget, it was William NOBLE (not Boyle) who was the manager in question.  Actually, some years ago, when I was first researching him, I obtained his son Robert's birth certificate - Robert is another sharing grave 471.  Robert had been born in Norway, and on the certificate it described his father's occupation as "rope maker".  It seemed strange to me at the time that a lowly rope maker might have spent 3-4 years working in Norway, but I subsequently realised that he was almost certainly helping with the mechanization of a Norwegian sail making company - I think it was the Christiania Sail Company, but I cannot be sure.  He was probably installing rope-making machines, so it fits if he was involved in the conversion of Metcalfe's Mill in 1898.

If there are Boyles still at Fellbeck, they probably are relations of mine, but very distant!  I bet they are related to David Humphrey Boyle, a recent Grand Sheriff of Yorkshire.

However, intriguing though it is, I doubt that the Boroughbridge Boyles are related.  My only relatives who relocated to Boroughbridge carried the WRIGHT surname, as it was a daughter of James Boyle and her husband.  James moved to live with them in his old age, and died there.

I had planned to visit the museum at Glasshouses on my next visit to the UK (I live and work in Thailand).  I was hoping there might be old photos of the mill that might include William Noble.  But it's great to get so much information without having to visit!  Thanks so much.

Tim

[ning]

Hello, sorry to barge in on your conversation but I really need some help and you seem like the people who might be able to help me!
My Mum is trying to search for her Fathers family history (he was adopted in about 1919 and we know very little about his birth family). We need to know about Colbeck House in Pateley Bridge. I've tried so many people but nobody seems to know anything. I even went and visited but found nothing. Do you know if it was maybe a home for unmarried mothers around the 1900s or maybe somewhere you took children when they were to be adopted. He came from quite a well-off family and I think he would of been cared for very well. We know he was there with a woman called Janet Rait Dall/Dail.
Sorry this is a bit garbled,
Thankyou for your time

Nic