Adairs of Derry 1901 census?

[aghadowey]

IGI (International Genealogical Index) is part of LDS site (free): www.familysearch.org
To get a copy of the 1907 marriage certificate:
www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm

Other than the 1907 marriage I could see no sign of Mainwaring/Manwarig in Co.Londonderry. The marriage certificate will list the residences of the bride and groom at the time of the marriage which may or may not be where they were born or where their families lived.

[bomerst]

Thanks for the information but I am still a little concerned because of my previous a experience. I wrote to Registrar  General, Oxford House in Belfast to request a marriage certificate and they returned my request for 2 reasons:
1. Marriage registers dating from 1 April 1845 for non-Roman catholic  marriages should be obtained from the District Registrar's offices.
2. I indicated Glendermot Presbyterian Church in Altnagilvin, Londonderry and the district Glendermot as the place of the marriage but they indicated that this was not correct and returned my application with the money order. The money £ 5.5 order is still sitting here.

I don't mind paying for a service but would like to have some success. My question is:
Is the Civil Registration Office in Roscommon Ireland the right place? Reason I am asking is that is the General Register Office for the Republic of Ireland is in Roscommon and I think I need to go to Ulster Northern Ireland. Would you know the address of the District Registry Office for Londonderry?

Sorry to be so picky but I hope you understand my frustration with my efforts so far.

Ted

[aghadowey]

GRO, Dublin (Roscommon) has certificates for all Ireland up to 1922. This is the link I gave you earlier. Until 1922 Ireland was all one country and registration was centralised in Dublin.

This is the link for GRONI, Belfast:
www.groni.gov.uk
There is a link on the page for 'District Registrar Offices' at the top of page and Derry is listed there.

Not sure what the problem was with trying order certificates previously but sometimes the more details you give the less chance of getting a certificate is all given details don't match their records.

Are you sure of the church?- there was a seatholder named John Adair in 1866 in 2nd Glendermott Presbyterian Church. See here for picture of church:
www.gilfillanfamily.com/cag5.htm
First Glendermott Presbyterian Church is here:
www.glendermottpc.org

From the information posted above it looks like the Adair/Mainwaring marriage took place in 2nd Glendermott and you perhaps gave GRONI Glendermott as the church.

[bomerst]

I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help.

Ted

[cbrad]

After a long gap I have managed to glean some more information relating  my previous postings at the start of this topic, about the Adairs of Waterside, (Ebrington Terrace, Clifton St and Chapel  Rd), Londonderry and would be so grateful for any more help. I have now found that contrary to my belief, the children were all born in Co.Tyrone. I am now hoping to find a marriage between Matilda (could be Jenkins) and John Adair possibly in the Omagh or Strathane area, Co Tyrone in approx 1881. I have a 30 year marriage stated on the 1911 census and one son William -stated on military records -that he was from Donedheady (Nr Strathane) and the other John who died in WW1 is recorded as being from Omagh. The father John was born in Derry approx 1860 but Matilda, his wife was, according to the census, born in Co. Tyrone approx 1855.
I am now guessing that John snr moved out into the Co Tyrone countryside for farm labouring work and met his wife there, later returning to Londonderry. I am trying to find a marriage for the parents and of course details of their parents, the wife's maiden name and birth details for all the children Annie, 1885, Ellen/Eleanor b1892 and Tilly/Matilda b abt 1895. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction it will be much appreciated.
Thanks,

cbrad

PS I need to confirm the dob for both boys too (William and John)

[aghadowey]

Am a bit puzzled by your latest information. I can't find a birth for Matilda c1895, Ellen/Eleanor Adair c1892, etc. in civil index. Where exactly did you get the new information?

[cbrad]

Thank you for so quick a response. I am using the census of  1911- 47 Chapel Rd, Londonderry, which gives the ages of Tilly as 15, Ellen as 18, Annie as 25, John as 51 and Matilda as 56. It is possible that the children may be born one years difference to stated as other than Annie, I do not know  the birthday months. I had forgotten that there is also a Jeannie/Jinny as well, probably born between 1881 and 1888. All the girls (minus Jeannie)  and mother, were stated born in Co Tyrone. The records of William and John were military records from Ancestry and showed William's enlistment in the reserves (RIF) and then his regiment a short while later (Royal Field Artillery)- and the record for John (RIF)was from an army memorial.
It is of course possible that this family moved around a lot because the records for the William would have been when he was 17/18 and as for John - the memorial just says 'from Omagh'. This is all I have to go on at present.
CB

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   The Londonderry Diamond War Memorial project www.diamondwarmemorial.com only lists one Adair from Londonderry who was killed in WW1. This was Corp John Adair of the Royal Inniskillen Fusiliers. It suggests that he was the son of William Adair and possibly Matilda Jane Adair. I have found this family on the 1911 census and it shows that John was the brother of William and the brother-in-law of Matilda. They lived in Governor Road.

Regards

[aghadowey]

Details of John Adair killed WWI were already posted (see replies 6-8 on page 1 of this thread).