Vranesic/Mussario/Sencenko

[Helenmur]

I am looking for a Margaret Crow who married a Joseph Mussario Martha Dowling who married Robert Vranesic Dorothy Dowling who married Boris Sencenko and Madeline Dowling who married Homer Ellis Margaret Crow is the Aunt of the three Girls any desendants of these would be great as they are the decendants of my great great aunt Julia Crow ( Nee Reid ) I have searched ancestry and cant find nothing for them apart from a mention in the obituary for Margarets Sister Martha Dowling ( Nee Crow ) 

[KathMc]

Have you tried googling the names also and searching under surnames on genforum, to find outher researching them? Do you you need them in census records? Dates would help for that.

Kath

[Helenmur]

I tried looking in the 1930s census for Martha Crow and her parents Robert & Julia Crow also her two sisters Margaret ( Peggy ) and Julia but couldnt find them their father first came to america in 1923 from Scotland and went to live with a cousin Gordon Reid in Joliet the Girls and their mother followed in 1925 to Joliet I can find them on the sailing list but cant find them on the census I know Robert died in Joliet about 1949 but Im wondering if maybe Julia (Mother) was home here at the time of the census as thats around the time her father my great great grandfather died and she did make frequent visits back home I think all her kids social security nos were issued in Illinois is Wilmington,Palm Bay,Diamond and Elwood all in Illinois I know Shorewood is also I think Morris is I can find Peggys Husband Joseph Mussario as Marthas daughter Helen Dewalt died in 2007 I have her obit but her sister Martha Vranesic isnt mentioned only her two surviving sisters  and the obit I found in the Long Beach Press-Telegram (CA) aug 2006 for Julia Panek I cant access to have a look at and as I dont live in the US I cant go to the library to look at back issues

[KathMc]

If you google for the library there and email them, they might send it to you free of charge. Even if there is a charge, it is minimal. I am awaiting an obit right now from a library that cost me $3. It's very frustrating when you can't find family in census, and you know someone has got to be around. Another option is to try www.raogk.org for the obit.

Does the obit you have that mentions the two surviving sisters give you enough to go on to try to locate them. I have been very lucky with that kind of info.

Kath

[Helenmur]

Hi Kath

one orbit does I can find that Dorothy and her husband Boris Sencenko lived at 320 Parshore Dr Shorewood Illinois Her Mother  Martha Dowling died in Morris grundy Illinois and Her Aunt Margaret ( Peggys) husband Joseph Mussario died 1985 in Joliet Illinois and her Aunt Julia Panek died in Long Beach Los Angles it really is frustrating trying to find them if I was sure that the XXX Panek I have found in the phone book was really Julias son I would phone from here in Scotland to him but I dont want to do that in Case it isnt him and I found a confusing Marriage and Divorce for him one said he married 1966 divorced 1972 then theirs a marriage for 1971 same wife on all the diffrent times so im not sure if its him or not I did email the newspaper but they are very ignorant they dont answer my question I will google and see if I can find the library for there and see if they can help

Helen

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[shellyesq]

If you go to newslibrary.com and search under "Panek Julia" (in quotes & in that order), the obit for Julia comes up.  You can buy the full article, but it doesn't look like it's much longer than what's already shown.  There's only the names of immediate survivors and not much more detail than that.

[Helenmur]

Hi Shelly

Thanks a lot that will be a great help

[GJohnston]

Hi Helen,
               I believe I can help you and send you in the right direction. My name is Gary Johnston I am the son of Dorothy Johnston (nee) Dowling (Sencenko). My grandmother was Martha Dowling born in Winchburgh Scotland! And the people you mention are all my relatives!! I am so excited to see your search. How can I help?

Sincerely Yours,
Gary J.Johnston

[Helenmur]

Hi Gary

I cant believe it I have been searching for information on great great auntie julias family for a few years now your Great Grand Mother Julia Reid was my Great Grandmother Robina Reids sister I knew that my aunt Julia had daughters and that she had emigrated to America I last seen my Great Great Aunt Julia when I was about 4 years old and that some of the family members used to come over to scotland every few years and visit my grandmother Robina Brown and her sister Margaret Brown (whom we call auntie maggie ) I will give you my email address which is ^(*).  I have been doing the family tree for over 8 years now Gary and have a lot of stuff I can give you access to for all your scottish relatives please email me and I will let you know what I need and I will give you access to the family tree to which you can go through at your pace

Helen


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