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Re: Gillott/Jillott/Jellott, Birth/Baptisim Lookup
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 04:03 GMT (UK) »
Glossop area would answer a few questions as theres nothing in yorkshire on any Jonas marriage sibblings of Mary.

Try a new post in Derbyshire/Cheshire look ups. you need some one from glossop who knows the area. As I said there is absolutley nothing in any Holmfirth register.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Carole,

As they were non conformists they could have been baptised private in there own home as with the troubles of rebellions
after the ludittes. Also with high infant death rates those days it was not uncommon for the parson to do this and maybe the reason to move over the hill to Glossop. Murder, looting, theft was rif then and tough punishment given out. Where Derbyshire was a county of peace and emloyment. Yes your theory does make sence. Also Glossop and Saddleworth were concidered as yorkshire in some parts +/- 15 miles either side of the boundry as it was never really settled after the war of the roses to things got civilized after 1837.

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Re: Gillott/Jillott/Jellott, Birth/Baptisim Lookup
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 07:50 GMT (UK) »
From original  1851 c Hadfield Gloss you got  Mary Jillott age 56 b 1795 born Shelly Kirkburton
 Also Lydica Grancliffe (Jillott) age 27 b 1824 Born Thursland
All sibings Born Thurstland.

Jonas b 1797 Holmfirth 1841 c res Hollingworth Newmill Below Thursland Holmfirth Kirkburton.

 Husband  James age 24 Born 1827 Hadfield
Dad William age 58 1793
Mother Elizabeth age 49 born 1802

So where the Birth reg entries are is either Private  unorthadox Chapel /house.or Deershaw  High flatts meeting house.
 
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Re: Gillott/Jillott/Jellott, Birth/Baptisim Lookup
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 February 09 22:42 GMT (UK) »
hi,

dont know if you know the area but crossgatehead, hollingreave and ebson house are all close together, in these days they all come under the new mill area.

all are in walking distance of thurstinland and brockholes.

ebson house is also in newmill, there is still a lovely old house there called ebson house.

have you tried wooldale chapel registers and hepworth.


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Re: Gillott/Jillott/Jellott, Birth/Baptisim Lookup
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 February 09 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Nice to hear from you!

Yes and No to your question?. Yes I know the area as villages and Holmfirth and still learning as I did a lot of research up there last summer but I'm from colne vally in Huddersfield but my family come from holmfirth on my mothers side or some do.

No as to  detailed insighted knowledge of these satilite abode places on registers or same these villages today.

I've looked through all Holmfirth registers in all church religions except cathorlic seems limited up holmvalley as to records if any.

There are some cottage/house/chapels private non conformist bapts and are in boxes or Achives somewhere or not recorded! some in BMD's non conformist website run by Nat archives brings up London registers for places around england BUT!!
when one reads the numbered pop up page it says within 12 miles of london??? RG5

As the post owner says all census say Thustonland??? bapts.

Yet Jomas b 1797 on 1851 census is at Hollinggreave Newmill and the rest of the family are over around (Joseph b 1830 Tintwistle)  glossop.

But! they are lucky as they can skirt around as these bapts as to knowing parents of Joseph and gang from Joe's marriage cert! the prime objective most look for in bapt registers



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Re: Gillott/Jillott/Jellott, Birth/Baptisim Lookup
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 21 November 20 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

I know this thread is 11-12 years old, but Google returned it as top ranking item in my search.

I have been researching Jillotts, it was my mother's maiden name, adding to work my mother had already completed.

Joseph Lee of (Over) Whickleden was the husband of Susannah, Sarah Jillott's sister. Joseph was born 8 Jan 1699 to John Lee of Whickleden (Kirkburton Parish Records) and married Susannah in 1722 (ditto).

The entry for Edward's birth states he is a "Bastard" and "Father Unknown" in a line that contains so much passive aggression (KPRs). But the curate baptised him nonetheless.

I have been unable to find Over Whickleden on any map but there is a Whickleden Wood south of Scholes and a Whickleden cottage just beyond that and exists today. Also, the mill at Scholes is Lee Mills, and I wonder if the Lee family owned the mill, in which case Joseph could be the son of the mill owner. Susannah probably worked there, as did most of Scholes. She would have been just 20 when they married.

We will never know Edward's father. But Sarah's parents were Edward (b1674) and Esther Jillott neé Bingley (b1673) of Shepley. Edward Sr also has unmarried parents, although this time we know the name of the father - Emanuel Marsland alias Thornton, who later marries, as does Esther. Edward Sr's mother was Esther Jillott, for whom we can find no birth record. However Esther Bingley's parents were John Bingley and Jennett Gillott (b1648), thus returning us to the J/Gillott line from Thurstonland, dating back at least to Henry VIII. Jennett's parents were Henry Gillott (b1606) and Jennet neé Bedforth.

Teasing out the above, it's possible that Edward Jillott and Esther Bingley were cousins and Esther Jillott 's father was also Henry Gillott and Jennett was her sister. Alternatively, she was widowed and was otherwise unrelated. Without records (that would have been English Civil War years) we just don't know.