Author Topic: CARVER Ramblings Part 2  (Read 80759 times)

Offline Easby Carver

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Re: Re: The mysterious Jane CARVER
« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 06:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan/Marg.

Bit more...there is a WALTER BASS listed on the 1878-79 Wise's NZ Post Office Directory at the intersection of Buckle Street, Wellington as bricklayer.  (Same listing as George Carver was on)

A JANE CARVER married WALTER JAMES BASS in New Zealand in 1891.

WALTER JAMES BASS, bricklayer, appears on the Electoral Roll for Lilyfield, Dalley, New South Wales, Australia for 1930-37.   I can see other male BASSes on the ERs but no sign of a MARY BASS yet.

Cheers,

Neil. (Easby)


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Re: Re: The mysterious Jane CARVER
« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 06:09 BST (UK) »
Oops - reference to MARY BASS should have read JANE BASS (as in nee CARVER).  Apologies.

Neil. (Easby)

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« Reply #146 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 11:50 BST (UK) »
Jan/Marg.

Two births for consideration from theAustralia Birth Index (1788-1922):

ALBERT BASS, 1899, Leichhardt, (Sydney) NSW.
ARTHUR BASS, 1903, Leichhardt, (Sydney) NSW.

Father: Walter J Bass    Mother: Jane.

Leichhardt is a next door Sydney suburb to Lilyfield (see above).

Neil.  (Easby)

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« Reply #147 on: Thursday 30 July 15 19:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Neil and Marg  - should keep me busy going through it all.

Jan ;)
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: Re: The mysterious Jane CARVER
« Reply #148 on: Saturday 03 October 15 16:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan/Marg,

Re: Joseph Carver of Arrington (b. abt 1820) which I believe Marg posted some info a while back covering his passage to Australia in 1856.   I've not seen anything more on him but I note the following death record from the ADC Australian collection (1787-1985).

QUEENSLAND: 16 Dec 1888, Joseph Carver.   Father: William Carver.  Mother: Hannah Pateman.   Reg # 004359, Page # 2371.

Seems like he was out there all told for 32 years.

Neil (Easby).

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Re: Re: The mysterious Jane CARVER
« Reply #149 on: Saturday 03 October 15 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil

Thanks for the information. 

I am going to be laid up for a few months after knee surgery so I will have lots of time to look at everything.

Thanks again

Marg
Carver....Bedfordshire and Leeds Yorkshire
Schofield....Hunslet and Leeds Yorkshire
Oliver...Hardingstone and Roade Northampton
Dutch and Hornsby....Bethnal Green and Spitalfields, London

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« Reply #150 on: Sunday 04 October 15 12:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan/Marg,

I too have been 'confined to barracks' on medical grounds.  Having no current driving licence, I've spent time delving...

There is a possible marriage for our Antipodean Joseph:

Queensland, 11 Mar 1868 to a JANE MACKISON for a JOSEPH CARVER.

A Jane Carver dies in Queensland on 7th April 1878.   Her parents are stated as: John McKerson (presumably a form of Mackison) and Janet Stirling.   Not traced any of these three further, yet - and no sign can I find of children (Joseph at least would have been late forties).   Curious, too, as to who was the informant at Joseph's death, given his wife predeceased him and somebody knew the maiden name of his mother.

Additionally, Joseph's brother David (b. abt 1826-8).  He's on the 1841 and 1851 census (Biggleswade Union Workhouse) and then, methinks, turns up again in Wrestlingworth for the 1891 census.  Interestingly, in 1891, David is stated as 'widower'.   I had a look at any marriages in the intervening period and came across this:

6th August 1866, David Carver (full age, bachelor), labourer, of Doncaster Street, Liverpool, marries Margaret Rowland Kennedy (full age, widow) of Hopwood Street, Liverpool.  David's father is stated as: William Carver, wheelwright.  Also, David makes a mark and not a signature (got to be him, then!).

Do we have a view on this David Carver as being 'ours', despite it being Liverpool?   None of the witnesses were Carvers and one of them (Carter) also made a mark.

Neil (Easby)

 

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« Reply #151 on: Sunday 04 October 15 13:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil
I would say it is highly likely you've found David. I wonder where  he was in 61, 71 and  81? I can't see him anywhere. No definites as D C in institutions either.

Good find with Joseph's death too.

Jan ;)
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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« Reply #152 on: Sunday 04 October 15 18:31 BST (UK) »
A lead I've been following up (without success so far) is the David Carver on the 1871 census at Smardale.  The location is near Kirkby Stephen, Cumbria and this David seems to be a railway navvy living on site with a lot of other such creatures in a 'Hut'.  There are problems, though.  This David is 'unmarried' and aged '55'.  However, a big plus is that he was born in Bedfordshire, and this occupation could explain why our David has been so reluctant to put in appearances down the years and provide an explanation for inaccurate information being recorded for such itinerants.  I also note that his brother Joseph also worked on the railways albeit twenty years earlier.

I've also tried to trace anyone named at the 1866 wedding, including the witnesses but without luck so far.  Given the location is Liverpool and one of the surnames is Kennedy, I've even tried to check out any Irish connection.

Neil (Easby).