CARVER Ramblings Part 2

[MaggieLou915]

Hi Sue

Your great aunt Selina Coates married Jonah Henry Carver of Sutton Beds. September 1, 1896 in St. Peter's Church, Dewsbury Road, Leeds, Yorkshire.

According to Victor Reginald Carver, Jonah came to Canada in June 1913 and settled in Victoria, British Columbia.

Jonah Henry Carver was a brother of my grandfather, George Thomas Carver.

Hopefully Sandra will receive notification of this post and she can give you more details.

Marg

[janan]

Hi Sue

Welcome to Rootschat and Carver Ramblings 

Jonah Henry's great grandfather George Carver is the brother of Young Carver my 3xgreat grandfather.

Jan

[41g]

Thanks to you both for replying so quickly.

I never met my paternal grandparents so I know very little about their family history. My grandfather's surname was Wilson which makes it even more difficult.

I came across this thread by accident and now I find I might even have Canadian second cousins!

Thanks again for your help
Sue

[janan]

Hi Sue

If you need any help with your paternal grandparents' family history post a query on the relevant county board and someone will come to your aid.

Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi Everyone,

I don't know if this is just a coincidence or not, but the surname Percival has cropped up twice as a witness to my Carver events in London.  First as the witness at a baptism in 1822 and then at a death in 1864.  I have no record of a Carver marrying a Percival, but just wondered if anyone else has come across such a link?

The only stray female Carver whom I haven't found a marriage for is Elizabeth bap 4 Apr 1795 in Hitchen, daughter of Samuel and Mary Prior.

Chis

[bedfordshire boy]

 First as the witness at a baptism in 1822

Can you expand on this? I've not seen any London baptisms at that time with witnesses

David

[Chris Carver]

Hi David,

It was non-conformist and registered at Dr William's Library.

Chris

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Chris

That explains it!

There's a parallel thread running on this board, Lugsden, who were also seriously non-conformist (baptist). It's very noticeable with that family that the same names keep cropping up, and it seems as though there was a small group of families, probably all members of the church, who intermarried through a number of generations.

Might that be the explanation with your London Carvers - the Percivals were members of the same church?

David

[Easby Carver]

Hi all,

I gleaned some additional details about our Melbourn Carvers from a trip to Cambridge which I did not previously have and which are included below:

Source:  Melbourn Independent Baptisms 1800-1841; Non-Conformist Registers Collection.

William Henry Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. August 7th 1820 (no birth date).
Louisa Scruby Carver; daughter of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. December 30th 1828; born November 20th 1822.
Edmund Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. December 30th 1828; born July 4th 1824.
Frederick Charles Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. December 30th 1828; born December 26th 1825.
Elizabeth Ann Carver; daughter of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. December 30th 1828; born November 6th 1827.
Algernon Edward Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. August 8th 1830; born August 17th 1829.
Francis James Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. May 13th 1832; born May 10th 1831.
Eustace John Carver; son of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. November 29th 1833; born May 16th 1833.
Julia Letitia Carver;daughter of William Crole & Elizabeth; bapt. January 10th 1837; born April 30th 1836.

Note:  For some reason Mary Alice Carver (1821-1906) seems to have missed out amongst the family group for M.I.C. baptisms. The Scruby and Fordham families are signifcant members of this church and are intermarrying.



Source:  Melbourn Independent Burials 1810-1916; Non-Conformist Registers Collection.

Rev. William Carver of Melbourn, 55, Dissenting Minister – died 3 Aug 1825.
Julia Letitia Carver, daughter of William Crole Carver, Melbourn, died September 12th 1858 in her 22nd year, buried September 17th 1858.
William Crole Carver of Melbourn, 71, formerly Preceptor, died 18 Jan 1865 in his 72nd year. 

Note: Wikipedia definition of Preceptor...A preceptor is a teacher responsible to uphold a certain law or tradition.



Source: Melbourn Meeting Church Book Minutes started April 1st 1790

Fly-leaf inscription: “This Church Book was put into my hands in November 1793 – W.Carver”
Beneath inscription reads “Sept. 1825” (William died 3rd August 1825)



Source: Melbourn Ind. Members List

“Since death of Mr. Cooper (former pastor)...W.Carver settled as pastor March 6th 1792”
“Mary Carver “ (subsequently amended status of ‘dead’)

No Carvers registered before this time and the above implies William and Mary Carver were established Church members before 1792. 

A couple of Carver references occur in the Great Eversden Independent Meeting House minutes:

September 13th 1798: “Mr. Carver to give ye nature of gospel church and ask usual question...”
September 10th 1809: “Mr. Carver of Melbourn...”

I take these references to mean our Mr. Carver was guest preacher on these two occasions.



Neil.