How do you find out more ?

[Leralc]

My GGgrandmother was apparently born in Kilkenny - i do not know if its the city or the county 

It was written in various census in England that she was born in Ireland/Kilkenny, Ireland. Given her age on the census and her marriage certificate i estimate her DOB to be circa 1845.

Her marriage certificate in Halifax, Yorkshire in 1867 gives her fathers name as James Butler, Labourer deceased.

so what now ? where do i go ? how do i find out more ?

[Christopher]

Hello Leralc,

Griffiths Valuation - Kilkenny 1849-50 www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php

Here's a list of James Butlers from the Valuations. If your James was living under his father's roof or the roof of a widowed mother then the Valuations may be of no use.

James Geese Hill,Gardens St. Canices
James Kyleballyoughter Tullaroan 
James Ballaghcloneen Tullaroan 
James Coolcullen Mothell 
James Coolcullen Mothell 
James Pollrone Tullahought 
James Kilmacoliver Tullahought 
James Mountfinn Urlingford
James Ballyhenebery Owning 
James Knockroe Rathbeagh 
James Wm. Tullowbrin Rathcoole 
James, Sr. Tullowbrin Rathcoole 
James Mountnugent Upper Rathcoole 
James Ballyhenebery Owning 
James Green's Hill,Newpark Lower St. Mauls 
James Green's Hill,Newpark Lower St. Mauls 
James Kellymount Shankill
James Clashacrow Clashacrow 
James, Esq. Kilmagar Clara
James Boherkyle Freshford 
James Brenar Fiddown 
James Ballypatrick Fiddown 
James Maddockstown Blackrath 
James Monabrogue Ballylarkin 
James, Esq. Mountgale Ballycallan 
James Ballycallan Ballycallan 
James Callan South Callan 
James Mill Street,Town of Callan South Callan 
James Broadmore Callan
James Westcourt Commons Callan 
James Castle Ellis Road Gowran
James Ballyfoyle Kilmadum 
James Cloghpook Kilmadum 
James Kylenaskeagh Killaloe 
James Seskin Killamery 
James Pottlerath Kilmanagh 
James Brownstown Dysartmoon 
James Watree Gowran
James Coan East Dysart 
James Smithstown Dysart 
James, Esq. Kilmagar Kilderrry 
James Ballycocksoost Inistioge 

Christopher

[MickPat]

I would try the following site:

http://kilkenny.brsgenealogy.com

which now has nearly all the available Kilkenny records on line.  It has been invaluable to me - but it costs!

[jm_butler]

I can exclude my great great grandfather of Monabrogue, Ballylarkin, Kilkenny as he was not a labourer but a farmer.

Use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml to see in what kind of building your James Butler lived in. People with many acres are farmers. A an acre or so would make them a subsistence farmer. A house with a yard would make them a wage earner.

If your ancestor was a labourer then it is unlikely that he had land as he would have no use for it and probably couldn't afford the rent.

It could also be that he rented a room from someone who is a tenant listed on Griffiths in which case you will never find him.

Good luck with your search.

James Butler.

[PJB]

I have spent nearly 30 years trying to find my GGgrandfather James Butler, his son, also James Butler, was born in Laois close to the Kilkenny boarder, I was pointed to Ballyragget but no luck

My great grandfathers details are James Butler born 1853 in Laois died 1927 in Dublin he and his father were cattlemen (Herds) he married Mary Delaney in 1872 and lived at Farren Cross Roads and Tintore, they moved to Dublin around 1900.

I do have a 25 marker DNA sample

Peter Butler