MI for WILKIE in Kettle

[tommacgregor]

Hi!

I'm thrilled to bits with the interest being shown on this subject, and greatly appreciate the wealth of detail being given.

To be fair to those people responding, I will try to simplify things by commenting on your details separately so as not to confuse matters, and to enable other researchers to pick up the details more easily.

Patches71:

Absolutely correct about David Wilkie being a coachman at the time of the 1881 Census. He is shown as being aged 54, (meaning that he would have been born c. 1827). He is shown as having been born at Cults in Fife.

His wife is shown as Margaret, (and we all know now that her Maiden Surname was Heugh or Hugh). According to the Census, she was born locally - at Collessie. Present at the time of the Census were: David, aged 23, Robert aged 20, Rachel aged 19, Margaret aged 10, and - bless her heart, Rachel HUGHES (note the spelling!) who is of course the Mother-in-Law of David.

For those of you researching  this family, there is an Extracted Birth/Christening Certificte for Margaret HEUGH (?Hugh). It can be found on the IGI Batch No: C114164. Birth: 1st August, 1828 at Collessie. Parents were Allan HEUGH and Rachel Green.

Phew! That was a bit of slog so quickly after my breakfast - only kidding!

Tom.

[tommacgregor]

Hi JoyceH,

Thank you so very much for your interest in this subject, and a great big WELCOME to RootsChat.

You have taken the first step by showing your willingness to work alongside other people with similar interests. Initially, I would suggest that you keep track of what is being presented on this subject, (i.e. the Thread) and make a reply (posting) whenever you want to.

You made mention of a David Wilkie who married a Catherine Stark c.1750 at Kettle. Can you enlighten us with just a bit more information about the couple, such as, their  birth-dates and birthplaces, parents and their children?

I have the feeling that we are going to be hearing quite a lot from you.

My very best wishes to you and yours,


Tom.

[tommacgregor]

Hi,

Once again we are seeing another example of Norrie G's terrific work with his camera. That really is great, Norrie, and is greatly appreciated.

The wealth of detail that you have given us confirms most of what I have, but, more important - it adds to it, and that's what I call wonderful assistance.

I will be spending quite a bit of time on what you have furnished us with, and can't wait to get back from the shopping centre this morning.

My very best wishes to you and yours, as always,


Tom.

[JAP]

Please excuse if I mess up (first time using this site! which was passed on to me by a  fellow researcher.  Any tips would be gratefully received).

My WILKIEs were from Kettle back to David WILKIE & Catherine STARK who married 1750 in Kettle.

I have a lot of event certs for WILKIEs, if I can be of any help - just shout.

Regards
JoyceH

Hello Joyce,

A huge welcome to RootsChat.

Of course you won't "mess up".   In general, RootsChat is a very warm and welcoming forum and most people are only to eager to help newcomers 

Though, if you are already back to 1750, it sounds as though you are in a position to offer help to others rather than seeking help yourself! 

"My" WILKIEs were from Aberdour (none from Kettle) but nobody on RootsChat has demonstrated any connexions to them to date.

A couple of "tips"?

It's a good idea to start a "new topic" on your own particular family - that way it won't get hidden/lost in a lengthy general thread (e.g. 'MIs in Kettle' is probably unlikely to catch the attention of WILKIE or STARK researchers ... )

If you start a new thread with subject line (say) " WILKIE and STARK - Kettle", it will come to the particular attention of RootsChatters who are interested in those specific names in that area.

Another tip is that PMs (Personal Messages) can't be sent to new members immediately.  So it's a good idea to make a few posts so that anyone who wants to contact you by PM with specific family info will be able to do so.

Best of luck,

JAP

[tommacgregor]

Hi!,

I did say that I couldn't wait to get back from the Shopping Centre with my wife. Since the Title of the Thread is MI for Kettle, I would like to continue with the work that has previously done on Kettle and it's strong connections to Kennoway.

Christopher WILKIE was the son of Robert WILKIE and Ann KILGOUR and there is an Extracted birth/christening record on the IGI, (B.N: C114345) that states that he was born on 5th June 1783 at Kennoway in Fife.

He married Isobel Martin on the 18th August, 1811 at Kennoway according to an Extracted marriage cert. M114345 on the IGI.
Once again though, we see the children being born at KETTLE in Fife. Other researchers may care to take a look at various Extracted birth/christening records on C.114355/6. There they will find:

Robert WILKIE born 21st July, 1812 at Kettle in Fife.
Barbara WILKIE born 31st January, 1815 at Kettle in Fife.
Alexander WILKIE born 26th December, 1821 at Kettle in Fife.

Norrie, I'm sure that you would be interested to see that Christopher was buried on the 13th January, 1840 at the age of 59. His abode was shown as Kettle. Anything in your little black book about where he was laid to rest?

Best wishes to you and yours,


Tom.

[tommacgregor]

Hi!,

Looking at the lovely photograph posted on this Thread a short time ago, plus the accompanying details with it. I am able to make further sense from it.

We were told that Robert WILKIE died 30th March, 1895 at the age of 86.His wife, Janet DUNCAN died 7th December, 1889 at the age of 75, and their daughter, Jane S. WILKIE died on 9th January, 1890 at the age of 35.

Jane SHARPE Wilkie is the daughter being referred to, and by looking at her Extracted birth/christening record on the IGI, B.N: C114346 SCN: 1040114 we can confirm that. Further we can ascertain that her sister, Janet WILKIE was born on 3rd January, 1853 at Kennoway. It would appear that Janet must have died early, because there was another birth on 21st November, 1859 at Kennoway to Robert Wilkie and his wife, Janet.

Best wishes to you and yours,


Tom.

[tommacgregor]

Hi!

I said earlier how delighted I am with the interest shown in Monumental Inscriptions - Kettle. I have had an opportunity to take a closer look at some of the information passed on to us, and feel that JoyceH may be able to assist due to her great knowledge of the Kettle area of Fife.

Diddymiller gave us a few brief details of Isabella WILKIE the wife of William SCOTT. Diddy stated that William died at Ladybank 17/8/1874 at the age of 76, and Isabella died 5/10/1875.

Initially, I did a very quick scan and found an IGI Individual Record that stated:

William SCOTT
Marriages: Isabella WILKIE
Marriage: 17th April, 1825. Cupar, Fife.

A bit later, I did a search on ScotlandsPeople and received confirmation that the above information was quite correct. The SP scan and download revealed that on 17/04/1825, William SCOTT did indeed marry Isabella WILKIE at Cupar in Fife.

However, just who was this Isabella WILKIE? Certainly, the marriage details confirm the details shown above, but don't give details of the parents, (It's pre-1855!). As Diddy mentioned, their son, James died at Cupar on 6th August, 1841 and Walter in Edinburgh on 18th July, 1869.

I'm curious to know exactly where William Scott and his wife, Isabella were buried and if there are any Monumental Inscriptions.

Again, very many thanks for your continuing support.


Tom.

[JAP]

(Emphases added)

...  Diddymiller gave us a few brief details of Isabella WILKIE the wife of William SCOTT. Diddy stated that William died at Ladybank 17/8/1874 at the age of 76, and Isabella died 5/10/1875.
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However, just who was this Isabella WILKIE? Certainly, the marriage details confirm the details shown above, but don't give details of the parents, (It's pre-1855!). As Diddy mentioned, their son, James died at Cupar on 6th August, 1841 and Walter in Edinburgh on 18th July, 1869.

I'm curious to know exactly where William Scott and his wife, Isabella were buried and if there are any Monumental Inscriptions.  ... 

As I said earlier, I have some interests in WILKIEs in the general area (though mine seem to be mainly in Aberdour and Dalgety) so I've been looking at this thread.

Diddymiller, have I missed something?  My understanding is that you have already provided the Monumental Inscriptions from Collessie (possibly/probably where William & Isabella were buried) as follows:

Collessie
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57: Wm Scott d.ladybank 17/8/1874 age 76.  w.isabella Wilkie 5/10/1875     age  74. s. james  d.Cupar 6/8/1841 age 10; s. Walter d. edinburgh 18/7/1869 age 40 (gmo Eliz mcMath d.Cupar 1/10/1850 age 84)

Tom, as William, Isabella and Walter all died in the time of Statutory Registration, the simplest way for you to find out just who was this Isabella WILKIE, would be to download her death certificate from ScotlandsPeople - death certificates normally give the name and occupation of the father, and the name and maiden name of the mother.

However, I would suggest that a cheaper way would be to pick up on the name of the grandmother (mentioned by Diddy) and check out whether that might have been the name of Isabella's mother.  That is, my suggestion would be that you do an IGI search for the birth ca 1800 of an Isabella WILKIE, mother Elizabeth MCMATH.

You will find one (in 1801 in Glasgow) - this will also give you the name of her father (James).  A parent search will then reveal that there are siblings - some are extracted entries and some are submitted entries.  The births were not in Fife.  I won't transcribe the results from the IGI - you can easily enough do the IGI lookup yourself and, if by any chance anyone else is interested, they can do it too.

I hope that this helps.

JAP

[tommacgregor]

Hi,

As I was saying previously, I have indeed worked with the information that Diddymiller was kind enough to provide us with. Naturally enough, I ensured that I had a copy of Isabella Wilkie's Death Certificate and noted that she is shown as the widow of William Scott, a joiner. She died at a place that I know very well indeed, Ladybank, in Collessie Parish. Death occurred October 5th., 1875.

Isabella's father was James Wilkie, a baker, and her mother was Elizabeth McMath. The informant on Isabella's Death Certificate is given as her nephew, George Scott residing at Innerleith, Parish of Collessie.

I would imagine that JoyceH would be aware of these details due to her extensive knowledge of the Wilkie family who lived around the Kettle area. Diddymiller will now be able to add to the brief details that she was kind enough to furnish us with.

Best wishes to all,


Tom.