Martin : William Charles

[heywood]

I think you may have to get a birth certificate for the William Charles born 1864 who seems to be yours to get Jessie's name. Then you could progress from there looking for a marriage.
Until then all is speculation.
According to 1881 William J ws born 1837- there are no William J's in the census for around this year - hence the one in 1861 gave you.

best wishes
heywood

[Twiglets]

I'll order a birth certificate for William Charles Martin, only i can't because of finances, but when i am able, may i have the link for the GRO, please.

[heywood]

Hi it's here:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

it will be worth it - as I said going back before without the 'J' just supposes that that is the relevant one.

If you need any of the census details I quoted please post - I will put them on here for you.

[heywood]

don't get too excited but I may have found something here:

1881
William J and Jessie b 1840 Westminster have an Edward Saunders b 1803 living with them.
By backtracking - I have had to go to 1851 to get them together but he has a daughter Jessie b 1841 Lambeth but they are living in Westminster. His wife is Louisa and William and Jessie have a daughter Louisa too so there are some connections.
Do you want me to post this info?

[heywood]

no marriages come up though

[Twiglets]

yes please, and yes you can post the information if you want.

[heywood]

I have found them in 1861  so have removed the earlier entry for William with his father.

Here goes:
1881  - you can view yourself for free

1871 RG10; Piece: 118; Folio: 22; Page: 37

William Place Tupton Street Westminster

William Martin head 34 yrs cab driver
Jessie wife 31 yrs
Jessie daur 11 yrs
Elizabeth daur 9 yrs
William son 7 yrs
Jane daur 5 yrs
Louisa daur 3 yrs
Susan daur 1 yrs

all born Westminster

1861 RG9; Piece: 47; Folio: 144; Page: 22

3 Williams Place
William Martins head 24 yrs house keeper b Westminster
Jesse wife 21 yrs ironer b Lambeth
Jesse daur 2 yrs b Westminster


Free BMD Marriage
Lambeth March quarter 1858 William Martin and Jessy Saunders (possible spouses)


1851 HO107; Piece: 1480; Folio: 275; Page: 44

2 Swan Yard Westminster

Edward Saunders 40 yrs labourer b Surrey Lambeth
Louisa 41 yrs b Middlesex Bishopsgate
Jessie 10 yrs b Lambeth Surrey
Charles 8 yrs b Middlesex St Margaret's Westminster
Elizabeth 6 yrs b  -do-

[heywood]

There are a couple of possibilities in 1851 census for William but I have found a birth:

Free BMD March quarter 1839 Westminster William James Martin

certificates will be best to confirm all this.

good luck

[Twiglets]

Hi heywood

Yes 1839 is very close, i actually have William as being born in 1840, and thank you for helping get a head start on my Martin's, hopefully when i have managed to locate and connect up with some cousin's i would like help with finding out about my Murphy, & Campbell lineage's,

I mean could you please help me with tracking down more information on my Murphy's, & Campbell's, since you have done a great job with guiding me down the right path for my Martin/Saunder's lineage.