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Martin : William Charles
« on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:01 BST (UK) »
I am facing a brick wall with my ancestor, and am hoping that i can have some help with finding out more about my Martin ancestors,

i don't have too much to go on with, only the date on when

William Charles Martin & Emily Mary White Married,

26 December 1886, St. John the Evangelist, Westminster, England

William Charles Martin's parent's names were:

William James Martin & Jessie ?


please also help me find out what Jessie's last name was.
White - Wiltshire
Heller - Germany
Murphy - Manchester
Martin - Westminister
Saunders - Surrey

Lee      - Northumberland
Hedley   - Northumberland
Campbell - Scotland
Young    - Scotland

Biggs    - Somerset
Crocker - Devon
Pannell - Sussex
Eustace- Cornwall
Freethy - Cornwall

Garlick        - Cheshire
Broadbent  - Cheshire   
Pemberton - Liverpool
Martindale - Liverpool/Lancs/
Airey          - Westmorland/Cumbria
Usher        - Cumberland

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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:27 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10; Piece: 118; Folio: 22; Page: 37

William Martin 7 yrs b Westminster
parents William and Jessie

does this age fit in. Have you found William and Emily after marriage  - do you know where they lived?
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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:38 BST (UK) »
here they are in 1881 - dad is WIlliam J and son William C so looks likely

1881 RG11; Piece: 111; Folio: 36; Page: 66
you can view this yourself - also on Free BMD a birth 1863 for WIlliam Charles to back it up.
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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:43 BST (UK) »
Heywood
Yes William J is the father of William Charles Martin, i have this information, it's anything before William J Martin that i'm Lacking.
White - Wiltshire
Heller - Germany
Murphy - Manchester
Martin - Westminister
Saunders - Surrey

Lee      - Northumberland
Hedley   - Northumberland
Campbell - Scotland
Young    - Scotland

Biggs    - Somerset
Crocker - Devon
Pannell - Sussex
Eustace- Cornwall
Freethy - Cornwall

Garlick        - Cheshire
Broadbent  - Cheshire   
Pemberton - Liverpool
Martindale - Liverpool/Lancs/
Airey          - Westmorland/Cumbria
Usher        - Cumberland


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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:45 BST (UK) »
I was confirming that the 1871 census fits in with the 1881 so perhaps I was on the right track  ???

It sometimes takes quite a bit of foraging to come up with anything and you had given very scant information.
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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:48 BST (UK) »
William and Emily married in St. Pauls Church, Clapham, Surrey, England, then settled in Westminster, England, where they had Emily Elizabeth Jessie Martin & Lucy Rose Alice Martin
White - Wiltshire
Heller - Germany
Murphy - Manchester
Martin - Westminister
Saunders - Surrey

Lee      - Northumberland
Hedley   - Northumberland
Campbell - Scotland
Young    - Scotland

Biggs    - Somerset
Crocker - Devon
Pannell - Sussex
Eustace- Cornwall
Freethy - Cornwall

Garlick        - Cheshire
Broadbent  - Cheshire   
Pemberton - Liverpool
Martindale - Liverpool/Lancs/
Airey          - Westmorland/Cumbria
Usher        - Cumberland

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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 August 08 20:50 BST (UK) »
I know that i didn't give very much information, but it's because i don't have too much, actually hardly anything, mainly just what i have posted.
White - Wiltshire
Heller - Germany
Murphy - Manchester
Martin - Westminister
Saunders - Surrey

Lee      - Northumberland
Hedley   - Northumberland
Campbell - Scotland
Young    - Scotland

Biggs    - Somerset
Crocker - Devon
Pannell - Sussex
Eustace- Cornwall
Freethy - Cornwall

Garlick        - Cheshire
Broadbent  - Cheshire   
Pemberton - Liverpool
Martindale - Liverpool/Lancs/
Airey          - Westmorland/Cumbria
Usher        - Cumberland

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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 August 08 21:00 BST (UK) »
That's ok and the one I found is listed as William with father William so there was no evidence to show that he was yours.
I then found that in 1881 the census has him as William C and father as William J so that confirms it hopefully.
You would then have siblings for William in 1881 - which you may have already found, although you didn't state that.
I thought you would be glad to have more information about the family- that is the siblings.
Now 1871 has two other siblings- who are not on 1881 and the next course of action would usually be that I would post that information once we have established that we are on the right track.
I asked where William and Emily were post wedding so that if necessary I could have found his place and date of birth from the census.
As it happens I cannot yet find them in 1861 - where they should be according to the ages of their oldest child - Jessie aged 11 yrs in 1871.
Nor can I yet find a marriage that would be around that year but I am still looking.
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Re: Martin : William Charles
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 August 08 21:14 BST (UK) »
removed to avoid confusion - found the right entry  :D
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