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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 28 August 08 22:49 BST (UK) »
I didn't know my living grandparents first names until I was in my teens, probably because they were a far more formal generation. The were simply grandma and grandpa. Even when I did know I would never have dreamt of calling them by name.

I still didn't know the first name of my maternal grandfather until I started family history in my 30s as he died before I was born


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« Reply #46 on: Friday 29 August 08 01:20 BST (UK) »
Well I cried my eyes out. :'( :'(
As a descendant of Jewish family I understood how he felt.
Sometimes it takes someone who is willing to do some research to find out just what really did happen as our ancestors are often unwilling to talk about such things.
I think it is a wonderful programme,famous or not.
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« Reply #47 on: Friday 29 August 08 02:21 BST (UK) »
have already said I do not watch it, I have gone on the prior release in the press.
When the source is readily available, why rely on second-hand opinions?

It is contrived, it gives the impression that these people simply walk into libraries and various venues and immediately surprise surprise they find all this material, they do not state that they have had researchers working for many months on it
Had you watched the programme you would have known that your opinion was incorrect.

I still believe this programme is contrived as an entertainment, hence the tearful people we have read about on this postings.
They want to try and cope with it with many more family members involved.
This comes across as rather arrogant and insulting to other Rootschatters.

I don't think your posts on this thread have been as constructive as those you have posted on other topics.

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #48 on: Friday 29 August 08 08:08 BST (UK) »
I agree with you Philip.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #49 on: Friday 29 August 08 08:13 BST (UK) »
I just wish I could have watch it and the one on Boris, cant see them here down under >:( and the BBC iplayer doesnt work here either - perhaps they will come out on DVD
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #50 on: Friday 29 August 08 08:19 BST (UK) »
I think you just need to discover torrents, Ed !   ;)
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #51 on: Friday 29 August 08 12:10 BST (UK) »
At the beginning of the program Jerry Springer said he thought both his grandmothers had died at Auschwitz.
In fact neither was there. The Germans kept very good records, and we were able to see the deportation order for the ghettos, the order to be ‘expelled’, and which camps they ended up at, and when and how they died.
The station and cattle truck displayed to show how it would have been.

He also wanted to know about his family before the war, and we learned about his great grandparents, the shoe shop, and how prosperous they were.

This is what makes the program interesting. It is really a slice of social history seen through the eyes of someone’s family history, which should not be confused with genealogy. One of the most interesting things to me, was how difficult it was for the Jews to leave Germany and that they could only come to Britain if sponsored, or by advertising themselves available for positions of work as servants in British households. America and other European countries were more restrictive. The many newspaper adverts revealed this.
The value of the program is that is shows areas of research that we may not have known of. In this case, the very meticulous German records that still exist.

Frankly, I am not really interested in any of the celebrities’ family history per se, but through Barbara Windsor, we learned something of the match girls of the East End of London, through Robert Lindsay, (both previous series) something of Gallipoli, and through Boris Johnson, something about the history of Turkey, which I was completely ignorant of.

Finally, I did not know my grandmother’s real name until some years after her death when I was a teenager, even though she lived with us for the last few years of her life. She was always ‘Grandma’ to us.



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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #52 on: Friday 29 August 08 12:19 BST (UK) »
(Nick, no torrents for WDYTYA unfortunately ... well there wasn't up till last week. Who knows how long we'll have to wait till they show it here in Australia.)

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 5 Episode #3: Jerry Springer
« Reply #53 on: Friday 29 August 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Dave- you are so right in your summing up!

I keep thinking about it- having watched it again with my husband who had missed it- the records which were kept were so chilling -making  the killing, not at all indiscriminate but meticulously planned.
Seeing the list of clothes - the galoshes and the straw hat - was like reading a will, the personal details so vivid.

My daughter and I were both saying we would have liked to find out who Miss Goldberg wa who sponsored them. Presumably she was just a benefactor, but it would have been good to just know that she was a .... and lived ... etc.

I wonder will Jerry Springer visit his family in Israel? I'd like to think so.
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