Which County?

[Ann Baker]

Hi

I have a conudnrum. My gtx 2 grandfather and his brother were both born in Co Monaghan - birth records still to be located but both of their marriages took place in Co Cavan in Cootehill which was the nearest town to where they lived in Ematris.

Is it likely that their birth records could have also been in Cavan tho they were born in Monaghan? I searched high and low in Monaghan for their marriages to find them in Cootehill, Cavan and am now wondering if maybe I should be seeking births in Cavan?

Thanks

Ann

[aghadowey]

Can't give a definate answer without knowing when they were born.
Civil registration of births in Ireland began in 1864. Were they born before this date? If so there will be not birth certificates. If pre-1864 then you need to search for church records so you need to know their religion and then look for the nearby churches of that religion. Church parish boundaries (Catholic and Church of Ireland) are different from civil parish boundaries and other religions (Presbyterians for example) are free to attend the church of their choice.

[Ann Baker]

Hi aghadowey

Yes pre 1864 which is the main problem. I know they were born in Monaghan, where exactly not sure which doesn't help but am assuming was over Ematris way.

They were definitely Church of Ireland. The problem is knowing which direction they would have gone in to go to church. Any idea which C of I churches there are around Corranwey?

Thanks

Ann

[aghadowey]

Sorry, not familiar with that part of Ireland. Someone else here might know the area better. In the meantime have a look at the Church of Ireland website which gives details of current C. of I. parishes.
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses

[otter]

1.  The spelling of the townland is Corranewy and it is in the Parish of Ematris, Co. Monaghan.  The PLU is Cootehill and that is where the marriage would have been registered IF it took place after 1845 [when Civil marriage registrations began for Church of Ireland.]

2.  It is usual for most marriages to take place in the church of the bride.  If the bride was from the Cootehill area in Co. Cavan, look for records in the Drumgoon Parish Church of Ireland.

[hallmark]

If they lived in Ematris then Cootehill is where their births will be registered as Ematris comes under Cootehill PLU and so it is the nearest registry office.

One of mine was Registrar of B/D/M's in Monaghan yet the births/deaths for them are in Cootehill.

I know from looking for mine in Ematris there are a few possibilites and some of them even got married in Dublin even though both bride and groom lived in Ematris. Some of mine lived beside the church in Glaslough yet travelled all the way to Monaghan town to attend church in 1820's so Killeevan/Ballybay/Rockcorry/Kilcrow are possibles for yours to name a few.

They are certainly findable! I've a lot of the g/yards photographed around there too.

[otter]

Don't know if this will help or just complicate things....but.....the townland of Corranewy is right on the border of the Parish of Ematris and the Parish of Aghabog.  Might try the Church of Ireland in Aghabog if all else fails.

[hallmark]

Yes that's another possible, and St John's, Dartrey.

Once you take into account not everyone attended their local church and with a few mile radius there are a good few possibles. Unfortunately Aghabog has very few g/stones.

Good hunting!

[Ann Baker]

Hi

Thanks for those suggestions. I have to go back over the water and have a look! They have to be there somewhere - maddening tho it is to find them! I console myself with fact they definitely existed cos if they didn;t then I wouldn;t!

And a wee trip to the Emerald Isle is always a good thing!

They definitely lived at Corranewy when my gtx3 died - I've seen the regioster of corrections in the land valuation office in Dublin which confirms William died and his wife took over in 1856 but where he is and what happend to her, where are their other children apart from my gtx2 and his bro I really want to know!.

Of course now been doing tree for a while and find out am 12/16ths Irish is brilliant but not so brilliant in terms of finding them as all pre registration.

But we don;t give up!

Ann