Mystery 'Nurse Child' Fred Talbot.

[Rosie May]

Thanks Lynda, Fifer and Ruth

Yes I feel you could well be right in what you say.

I have sent off for Florence Dyett's death certificate and will post the information as soon as I have received it.

If it comes back she died in childbirth then I think maybe we have cracked it!! (although still no concrete proof).   

Thank you all once again for your interest and your contributions.

Rosie

[fifer1947]

If it comes back she died in childbirth then I think maybe we have cracked it!! (although still no concrete proof).   

We only ever have what our ancestors have recorded and if they told fibs ........ 

I don't honestly think you ever have concrete proof especially with illegitimate births BUT if you can get as close as possible with data such as you already have (and if Florences DC bears our suspicions out) you will be able to say "on the balance of probabilities" WO Butler/F Dysett were Fred's parents.

I have my fingers firmly crossed! 

[Rosie May]

 Yes Fifer, you're right and I am crossing everything  waiting for this death certificate!!!

You and Ruth have been so much help to me and I cant thank you both enough.

I never seriously considered Florence Dyett before as the  mother of Fred but as we all seem to be thinking along the same lines then I am hoping our suspicions are right.

I agree that the Dyett family, if its true what we are thinking, were well sick of WO, and so they should be and most things do point to  him and Florence Dyett being the possible parents.  If that is true then what a thoroughly nasty bloke WO was?

The one thing that puzzles me though is why would some one (possible Jane Butler) go along and register him in the name of Talbot?  Where does the Talbot name come from I wonder?

Anyway, I will await the Death Certificate and be in touch .....

Rosie

 

[rutht22000]

fingers crossed 

if it was more likely than not that Florence Dyett was his mum, which we can only say, as Fifer said is balance of probabilities, we may never get to the Talbot bit....unless whoever registered him was covering up or was mistaken with Florence (Dyett's) name.

it would be handy if baptism records were signed by the person baptising the child and not just the vicar...

[Rosie May]

Hi to all

Well today I received the long awaited death cert of Florence Dyett

This is what it said:-

WHEN AND WHERE DIED
First June 1898
Workhouse Infirmary
Brook Street


NAME AND SURNAME
Florence Dyett

SEX
Female

AGE
30 years

OCCUPATION
Bottle Washer
of
135 Vauxhall Street
Lambeth

CAUSE OF DEATH
Heart disease
Nephritis
Dropsy

SIGNATURE & RESIDENCE OF INFORMANT
G Dean
Steward
Workhouse Infirmary
Brook Street

WHEN REGISTERED
Second June 1898

So.... None the wiser a??

 What do you  good people think would be the next step  (if any)?

Any advice would be appreciated or shall I just give up with this?

Thanks to you all for your interest - I am gobsmacked  at the following this has received.  Thank you all so very much.

Rosie

[rutht22000]

hmm...Florence was certainly worth a try but she can probably be discounted which is a shame as she seemed to be a more obvious candidate.

Needs thinking about...

[Rosie May]

Yes Ruth she did seem a possible/probable candidate but I agree she should be discounted now. 

Oh well - back to the drawing board then a.

Thank you for your help in this - much appreciated. 

Rosie

[lyndyloo6]

mmmmmmmmm......still thinking.......xx

[Rosie May]

Its been over a year now and I am still no further on with my search despite most days looking for both FLORENCE TALBOT, single woman, who gave birth to illegitimate child FREDERICK JOHN TALBOT, baptised at Lambeth St Mary the Less on 23rd April 1902, who gave her address as 77 Vauxhall Walk, Lambeth.

I have continually searched for more details of the above but have always drawn a blank.

I believe, as stated in my previous posts, that Frederick John Talbot , for some reason, was adopted by the Butler family. 

I need to trace  the mother, Florence Talbot.  I cant get any further with this and its driving me mad. 

I need the help of you more experienced Rootchatters please. 

Any help, any ideas, any suggestions - anything please to further my search?

Thank you

Rosie