Mystery 'Nurse Child' Fred Talbot.

[fifer1947]

Although it doesn't state a Charlotte Sophia in that census, it does show a Sys. S Dyett, aged 7.

Wonder if this could refer to Charlotte Sophia Dyett, who married WO?

Mistranscription of Cissie?  possible ??

[rutht22000]

Walter Ormond Butler that joins the South Wales Borders in 1896 absconded in September 1896 and there is a note in his records that he "absented himself from proceeding to join this Regiment on 21st inst" (think that's 21st September)

He didn't officially join the South Wales Borderers so completely legitimately could have joined the Gordon Highlanders later, I suppose.

[rutht22000]

Another thing that always puzzled me is that on the 1881 census there is a Dyett family living at 116 Vauxhall Walk, Lambeth (Vauxhall Walk crops up quite a lot with the Dyett/Butler family).  I don't know if this is the family of Charlotte Sophia Dyett (who bore WO three children before marriage) but, there is a Florence Dyett within this family who was born in 1868 and who died the year Fred Butler/Talbot was born in 1898.

On Charlotte Dyett's marriage certificate to WO she gives her father as Edward Dyett, a Carman.  Interestingly the occupation of Carman is one that WO gives on his 1896 papers for the South Wales Borderers, although on marriage to Charlotte, WO says he is a Decorator.

So the Charlotte with a sister Florence did have a sister Florence.  Parents were Edward and Louisa

[rutht22000]

What was the Dyett family's mum's maiden name? 

Not Talbot unfortunately - she was Louisa Knowlden

[Rosie May]

Thank you both very much for your information.

So it looks like the Talbot name still doesn't tie in anywhere then.

I think maybe I will send off for Florence Dyetts death certificate in 1898 and see if that throws up anything.  If she happened to die in child birth it wont exactly prove anything but I will wait and see what it says.

Rosie

[rutht22000]

....that death of a 30 year old Florence Dyett in June Quarter of 1898 registered in Lambeth, but that must have meant she died in April May or June, but Fred was born in the August so its the wrong quarter unless his birthdate is a month or so off...

but the fact she was 30 fits with the census saying she was born in 1868.....

[Rosie May]

Oh silly me.....

Have just realised that Florence Talbot was around in 1902 to have Fred  baptised so obviously it cant have been the same person as Florence Dyett,  who died in 1898, so I may as well save my money and not bother sending for the death certificate.

Have been trying to find my notes to confirm exactly when Florence did have him baptised but as my filing system is rubbish I cant find it.  But I think it was in 1902 but I may be wrong.

Rosie

[rutht22000]

Oh silly me.....

Have just realised that Florence Talbot was around in 1912 to have Fred  baptised so obviously it cant have been the same person as Florence Dyett,  who died in 1898, so I may as well save my money and not bother sending for the death certificate.

Have been trying to find my notes to confirm exactly when Florence did have him baptised but as my filing system is rubbish I cant find it.  But I think it was in 1912 but I may be wrong.

Rosie

Fred's baptism was 1902....If his mother had passed it could well have been on the baptism record unless it was Jane pretending to be Florence, but on the face of it it does look like his mother was alive in 1902.

[Rosie May]

Sorry Ruth - yes it was 1902 when he was baptised.

I wonder why his birth was never registered yet they bothered to get him baptised?  Another mystery which doesn't make sense really.

Rosie