Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990

[BY]

Hi, Njones,


The name Sam Jones is certainly known in the Pilot Service and there is more than one S Jones in the list - but the last one retired in 1937, after holding a licence for thirty-nine years. He might well have been Senior Pilot at that time. He was born in 1872. Is this the man you mean?

He is shown as having died in 1945, aged 73, and therefore long past any active service by that time


Best,

BY
     

[njones68]

Thx for the reply, this may well be him as the dates are close.

Will do some more research.

njones68/Canada

[ozranga]

Hi,
Kellys Directory Liverpool 1938 has :
Samuel Jones, Silverdale, Courthey Avenue Liverpool. Second master on the pilot steamer Number 1 "Charles Livingston"
cheers
Marienne

[BY]

Thank you, Ozranga!

My own time in the Pilot Service was from 1959 (as a sixteen year old apprentice) until 1988.

Njones will I hope be interested to hear that during that period the name Sammy Jones was well remembered, particularly by way of a landing-place identified on the rocks near Amlwch, Anglesey, which was know in the Pilot Service as "Sammy Jones' Creek".  I never did see the place marked on any chart by that name but, for sure, the name was well known.

The landing place might even have taken its name from an earlier Sammy Jones, I simply don't know. But, yes, the name was well known!

For all I know, even the name "Sammy Jones' Creek" might have been mythical (rather like "Davy Jones' Locker") as I was never sure of its exact location. The name, though, was certainly a part of pilotage folk-lore.

Hope this might help.

BY

[glenburn]

Hi njones68

Just as well your Samuel JONES wasn't on board the CHARLES LIVINGSTON on the night of 26th November 1939, when she met such a tragic, ignominious end off Ainsdale - an incident which claimed the life of one of my own relatives Thomas Ledsham EVANS :-

 http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/pilotboat1.html

[davecigar]

and my grandfather Thomas W R Cockram.
Dave

[Jess53]

Hello and thank you for your kind offer of help. I am trying to trace a William Walker Webster, who was a pilot according to the Kelly's Directory for 1894. He lived in Obherhof, Tobin Street, Egremont. He went on to submit plans for building a house on the bottom end of Tobin Street. I understand his wife at the time was considerably younger than him, thanks Jess

[BY]

very sorry, Jess.

Records to hand show no Webster holding a licence in 1894.

There was a CW Webster who was first licensed in 1899 aged 24. He died in 1926.

Might this fit?

Good hunting.

BY

[ozranga]

Hi
there are 7 Websters in 'Beyond The Bar'
JG born 1924 lic 1948 died 1988
CE b1906 Lic 1933 d 1952
CW b 1875, L 1899, D 1926
E Lic 1818 D 1833 at sea
PJ B1929, L1953, D1982
TH B1883, L 19085, D1958
W Lic 1812,  D 1833 at sea