Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990

[clematised]

Thanks Dave I know he will be pleased with this information and I am sure I can get the rest of his career from Maritime Museum Liverpool

Thank you

Edna

[davecigar]

Edna,
Just make sure you check the opening times.
It would be frustrating to have a wasted journey.
Dave

[clematised]

Yes Dave I think they only open about twice a week for viewing the records.

Edna

[JoWiDaWa]

Hi
James Walker was a Liverpool Pilot from 1813 until his death in 1837.
There is no mention of any Enslow's.
As far as Mariners and Sailors are concerned the research is far more complex.
A visit to the National Archives at Kew, London appears to be the only way to progress, unless you are willing to employ a researcher on your behalf.
If you visit www.mariners-l.co.uk that explains the process for researching Merchant Seamen from 1835, when records began.
I have been down this road recently and you can view my results under 'occupation' on this site entitled 'Voyage Records - NA - Is this correct?'
Hope this is of some herelp
Regards
Dave
Most appreciated, Joe Walker

[hoofin]

Hi there - what a wonderful site!

I'm looking for any information on my great great grandfather THOMAS SWIFT PATTISON who was, I understand, a Pilot.

He was born in 1816 and, in 1841, was living at Eldon Place with his occupation shown as a Pilot.

Can you help me please?

Thanks.

[55Withens]

I would very much like to trace any record in the list of Mersey Pilots of my ancestor THOMAS MARTIN born 1826 and recorded in the 1881 census as an "annuitant pilot" living in Kirkdale, Liverpool.

[davecigar]

Hoofin,
Not so great as it's taken so long to reply!!!!
There are 2 Thomas Pattison's in the directory. Neither of them has a birthdate recorded.
The 1st one was licenced in 1806 and died 4 years later when a punt overturned, so that rules him out.
No 2, I think is your man. Licenced in 1835 and retired in 1857. The date of death is not recorded. There is a bit more info though. In 1856 he spent some time in Lancaster Gaol for debt. I'm not gloating though as my Great Grandfather also spent a month there in the same year, 1856. I wonder if there was a related incident? I doubt it as they were self employed and probably spent most of their time at sea, either on the pilot cutter they were attached to, or piloting a vessel.
It is possible to find out which pilot cutter a pilot was attached to (or had shares in) which can be found in the Pilot Character Book at the Merseyside Maritime Museum, Albert Dock, Liverpool. It also records all aspects of his Pilotage career. Check opening times tho'.
In a copy of "Returns relating to Pilots and Pilotage for the Port of Liverpool" dated 31/12/1854, which I have in my possession, Thomas S Pattison is aged 39 attached to No 2 Pilot Schooner "Leader" as a 'Journeyman' Pilot and was licenced to pilot any vessel. So that confirms the 'Swift' christian name. That'll do for a start,
Happy searching
Dave

[davecigar]

55Withins, Hi,
There are two Thomas Martins' in the directory, with very similar birth dates and other details.
No 1 was born in 1825, licenced in 1842, retired in 1880 and died in 1882. Not exemplary tho'. He appeared before the Pilotage Comittee on 19 occasions for disciplinary reasons and once for a commendation for pilotage services to a vessel in fog.
No 2 was also born in 1825, licenced in 1844, retired in 1880 and died in 1882. Nothing else recorded against his name.
Whoaaa!! Now I'm wondering whether these entries have been duplicated. I have read thro' 3 lots of "Returns Relating To Pilots " etc and can only find one Thomas Martin attached to any of the pilot cutters or schooners. In 1854 he was attached to No 10, aged 30, a 'Journeyman' Pilot licenced to pilot any vessel. In 1862, aged 38, it was No 8 pilot schooner "Pride of Liverpool. In 1867, aged 45, it was No 4 cutter "Auspicious".
A comprehensive record can be sighted in the Pilot Character Book at the Merseyside Maritime Museum, Albert Dock, Liverpool. This will also verify if there were 1 or 2 Thomas Martins' born in the same year. Worth taking a pencil and paper, as that is all they will allow. I don't think you can take photographs of the pages, unless they've changed their policy. Check the opening times tho'.
All the best
Dave

[suecollings1]

Hi Dave
Sorry to repeat my request (original posted on 7th May 2009), but I don't appear to have had an answer since your return from Italy.
Original message below-

Hi
Please could you look up Leonard R Crasswell - born about 1911 in South Shields.
My Mum remembers him working as a pilot on the Mersey.
Thanks
Sue