Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990

[davecigar]

Ricky,
Have a look at www.old-liverpool.co.uk/Pilots where Joseph Bennett is listed as 2nd Master of No 6 sloop 'Friends Goodwill' in Feb 1808
Regards
Dave

[RickyC]

Hi Dave,

Many thanks for your prompt reply.
 
In 1809, it was a 'condition of service' that the Hoylake Lighthouse Keeper was also Coxswain of the Hoylake Lifeboat.
So Joseph Bennett would have filled both positions until he retired as Coxswain in 1822.
At this point, the 'condition of service' was removed, thus allowing Joseph Bennett to continue as Lighthouse Keeper until his death in 1828.
Unfortunately nobody knows who took over as Coxswain after Joseph Bennett's retirement in 1822. Thus Hoylake Lifeboat Station's list of Coxswains remains blank for the period 1822 to 1840.

RickyC.

[RickyC]

Hi again Dave,

In answer to your second reply :--

Liverpool Pilots in Service in February 1808.

No. 4 Happy Return - Peter Bennett - Master
No. 5 ISAAC - Thomas Bennett - Master
No. 6 Friends Goodwill - Joseph Bennett - Master

Seems a bit like the GOONS (LOL)

More Thanks,

RickyC.

[glenburn]

Hi Dave

Hope you don't mind me pointing out that your link should read :- 

http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk/Pilots.html

Two names from my own tree in the February 1808 list - Thomas LESTER on No 6 (Friends Goodwill) and Richard EVANS on No 9 (Liver).

Regards
Gordon

[moya72]

Hello Dave.  Do you have any listings for Liverpool Pilot William Daniels, licensed 1817, retired 1856,  names of Pilot boats he may have been on, family etc:   There was also a John Daniels licensed 1819, would there be anything to indicate that they may have been brothers.  Thankyou Moya

[davecigar]

Hi Moya
The only info I have concerns Wm Daniels. He was attached to No1 sloop "Liverpool" on 31/12/1854 as a journeyman pilot, aged 58. He was 10 years older than anybody else on board so enjoyed a long career. No1 was built by Wm Dickinson in Liverpool in 1834. She was 55'x15'11"x8' with a gross rgistered tonnage (grt) of 58 tons. She was eventually sold in 1856 to a fisherman from Hoylake. Wm retired that year and died in 1857.
There isn't any info to suggest they were brothers. The 1851 census will give you their birthplace and then it's parish records for baptism.
Regards
Dave

[glenburn]

Hi Moya

As you're no doubt already aware, the 1851 Census gives Liverpool-born pilot William DANIELS' age as 58, placing his birth year as 1792/1793.

In the 1841 Census Lancashire-born pilot John DANIELS' age is given as 40, placing his year of birth (given the rounding-down to the nearest 5 years) as anytime between 1796 and 1801.

The IGI has baptisms in Liverpool St Nicholas as follows - all children of John DANIEL and Ellen :-

1788  Elizabeth
1790  Sarah
1792  William
1795  Henry (mother Ellen GARRETT)
1800  John (mother Ellen GARRAD) (born 19 November 1799)

So the prospect of Liverpool pilots William & John DANIELS being brothers looks pretty good, the one nagging doubt being this baptism, also on the IGI :-

14 September 1800
Liverpool St Peter
John DANIELS
Father John DANIELS, mother Jane

Regards
Gordon

[moya72]

Thanks Gordon & Dave.  Your help is invaluable.  Regards  Moya

[glenburn]

Hi Dave

Youde (so presumably Tebay too) has the Daniels J (i) who was licensed in 1819 as died in service in 1853.
Do you by any chance have a record of the incident which took his life, or will this necessitate a trip to the MMM archives to look at the Pilots' Character Book (which I may do anyway)?

PS.Would love to know the identity of the Hoylake fisherman who bought the ex No1 sloop LIVERPOOL in 1856, if this information is available anywhere?

Regards
Gordon