Henry SMITH and Dinah Ellen GRAY

[An65]

The only info I have on Brownetta Smith is already known to you Im afraid. What became of her/her family (if she had one) I have not been able to find out.

[Chezp]

Hi
Glad you liked the summary - it's certainly made it easier for me to follow.

I've found a note of entries I made from another of my late great aunts. Another birthday book which  mentions several of the Gray family's birthdays strengthening the close link the Smiths and Grays must have had, particularly around Great Hale and Heckington from the 1900s onwards ie Lydia Gray 1900-1927 and "Lydia's mother" Jan 8 1870. William Gray July 21 1899, Hugh Gray Aug 9 1896, Eric GRay Aug 11 1904. They must have been close to have kept these details.

Oh and Deb - I had noticed you calling me Edwina but didn't want to say anything...

Chez

[deb usa]

Chez,

Deb,

I think Brownetta is another one of the names that appears on Ann's fantastic website as marrying Wisdom Smith (c. 5/6/1796 Twyford, Leics).  According to that site they had one daughter called Lucy c5.4.1814, Bainton, Nthants, there are no other details for her although Wisdom seems to have had a couple of other wives so I think we might need Ann again to explain!

I wonder if Brownetta changed her name ...I have found this on IGI
Wisdom SMITH s/o Wisdom and HANNAH
05 JUN 1796 Twyford, Leicester

exact same day as they married ....Coincidence or what??

Or was Wisdom married to Hannah and baptised hi son the same day he married Brownetta??

deb

[mongojoby]

Hi Deb,

Sorry for not making it all that clear but the date I have noted is for Wisdom Smith's christening rather then his marriage (Brownetta would have been about 2 at this time!).

Hope you aren't too confused,
Regards,
Jo

[deb usa]

Jo

how embarassing ,,,, I have just realised my mistake ... I am crawling under the table at this very moment ...hee hee 

deb

[deb usa]

I also see a Wisdom Smith married a Maria Elet IGI ext
 01 JUL 1818   Saltby, Leicester,
 

seems like the Smiths/Grays/Elliott/Ellett families are totally intertwined ...

arghhhhh ...I also cannot see Francis and Sarah ellett/Elliott in 1871 or 1861 ...

deb

[deb usa]

Hi all

Have just been g**gling and have found this which may help .... it comes from your site An65 ....

Remember one of the mourners was Mrs WINTER....

"Little London, Melton Mowbray Leic 1871:
Sarah Winters 48 Hawker Boston Lin
Ann Winters 11 Melton Leic
Ellen Winters 8 Notts
William Winters 2 Melton Leic"

I wonder if this family has anything to do with the Smiths/Grays?

[Chezp]

Hi Deb.

At the funeral of Fred' Smith's wife Annie (died Christmas Eve road crash 1954 Annie and her son-in-law) among the mourners are Mr S Gray (this might be Sidney Gray) and there is a Mr H C Winter. I know the dates are well ahead of what we're looking at but I thought I'd mention it as it might show an older link.

Chez

[Chezp]

Hi
Just browsing through before logging off and saw this from babygirl101 ...

I can't really find any connection to a Charles Smith (b. around 1819) in my family, but I came across a newspaper report about him, dated 26th February 1887.

It refers to his wife Lucy Smith (formerly Austin) who was born around 1829. They had two children living with them at the time - Oceana aged 17 and Albert aged 11.  They were reported as being gypsies and he was from Barford Oxfordshire apparently.  His sister then late sister was mentioned and it said she was the wife of a Wisdom Smith and had died about 1885 at the age of 90 (i.e. born around 1795).

Could this be Brownetta? She was supposedly born 1784.
]Chez