Henry SMITH and Dinah Ellen GRAY

[Chezp]

Hi

I thought I'd go through and put all the info that's come up in date order and its certainly looking a lot clearer now. Here's what we've got and it's quite a bit:

1790. Bathwell Smith bpt Cold Higham near Grimscote, Northants 21.06.1790 s/o Thomas and Nancy Smith (according to (*))

1804. Charlotte b cira 1804 Weedon, Northants. According to the old folklore she married Matthew Smith (possibly Bathwell).

1831. Matthew Smith married Charlotte Elliot 12.09.1831 Loughborough, Northants. Matthew had previously been married to Eleanor Smith who was buried at Wigston Two Steeples. He married Eleanor 05.02.1816 also at Loughborough. According to the old folklore, Matthew Smith was one of the sons of Jim Smith of Buckminster who was married to Seperata Boss. Another child was William Smith who married Ann Elliott and produced Maria Smith  who married Christopher Gray. William and Ann Smith lived at Horncastle. Both buried there in 1870s.

Children of Christopher and Maria were Mary Ann Gray 1837, Henry Gray 1839,  Dinah Gray 1842, Frederick Gray 1844 and Thomas Gray 1846. IGI

1832. Charlotte Smith d/o Matthew Smith and Charlotte bp 01 Jul 1832 Bicker, Lincoln. IGI
1834. Christopher Smith s/o Matthew Smith and Charlotte bp 23 Feb 1834 Brothertoft IGI
1836. Constance Smith d/o Matthew Smith and Charlotte bp 20 Mar 1836 Caythorpe, Lincoln. IGI
1838. Harriett/Tranette Smith d/0 Matthew and Charlotte bp 13.05.1838 Quarrington IGI
1843. Sarah Smith d/o Barthwell and Charlotte Smith bp 28 May 1843 St ANdrew's Scredington. Abode Scredington Lane, father;s occupation chair mender. Just found on FreeReg
1848. Mary Ann Smith, daughter of Barkwell Smith born

1851. Spalding
Christopher Smith unm 19 lodger Hawker or tapes & cottons b Donington
Charlotte Smith unm 20 ditto
C Smith female unm 15 ditto


(*) Moderator Comment:  References to a living person removed at that person's request.

[Chezp]

1861. Jobber’s Arms, 39 Castlegate Street, Grantham
Dinah Gray unm aged 19. Hawker b Scredington

1861. Bassingham. Lincs, not in houses
Joseph Gray 35 tinman and brazier b Branston, Lincs
Mary Gray wife 34 b Skillington
Ambrose Gray son 9 b Skillington
Collin Gray son 4 b Ancaster
Frederic Gray son 3 b Billingborough
Aaron Gray son 1 b Carlton Scroop
with
Bartholomew Smith 69 Chair bottomer b Grinscote, Northamptonshire
Charlotte Smith wife, 55 b Weedon Barracks
Sarah Smith un 18 b Scrichington?
With
Abraham Gray 26 Horse dealer b South Kyme
Harriet Gray wife 24 b Quarrington (Bathwell and Charlottes daughter)
John Gray son 3 b Swineshead
Charles Gray son 1 b Eagle

1861 Navenby. Barthwell Smith died 21 Nov 1861 aged 71 Navenby. (Daughter Sarah Smith informant)
1867. Mary Ann Smith daughter of Barkwell Smith basket maker (deceased) married John Coy.
1869. Wrawby by Brigg. Christopher Gray, father of Dinah, killed after being hit by a runaway horse and gig during Brigg Fair.

1871. Tuxford, Nottinghamshire Sleeping in vans
Harry Smith 29 b Eagle travelling with tinware
Ellen Smith 29
Joseph Smith b-I-law 13
Fred Smith aged 5
Barthwell Smith aged 4 b Belton Forest
Charlotte Smith 3
Constance Smith 3 months
Next to 
Joseph Gray
Mary Gray
Ambrose 18
Alice 22
Colin? 16
Fred 11
Aaron 10
Betsy 8
Constance 6
Louis? 5
Rainworth 2

1871. North Kyme
Mary Ann Coy head wid 22 charwoman b Braceby
Betsy Coy dau 2 b North Kyme
Charlotte Smith visitor widow 67 general hawker. B Weedon Barracks

1872. Mary Ann Coy daughter of Barkwell Smith horse dealer (deceased) married Thomas Carter

1874. North Hykeham
Christopher Smith born 7 July, s/o Henry and Ellen

1875. Maria Gray, mother of Dinah Gray buried at Heckington.

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1881 .14 Newark Road, North Hykeham
Isaac Robinson head aged 44
Sarah Smith housekeeper aged 36 bSkringington
Frederick Smith aged 17 b Horncastle
Bertie Smith Aged 15 b Belton in Forest
Christopher Smith aged 6 b North Hykeham

1881. 18 Dawson’s Court, Lincoln
Henry Smith aged 33 b Carlton
Ellen aged 38 b Sleaford
Charlotte aged 13 b Overton
Constance aged 12 b Stamford
Harriet aged 4 b Lincoln
Thomas aged 1 b North Hykeham

1881 Mareham Le Fen, Lincs
Thomas Carter
Mary Ann Carter 42 b Eagle
Betsy Carter 12 (Betsy Coy)
John Carter 7
William Carter 5
Harriot Carter 2
Lucy Ann Carter 1

1882. North Kyme
Henry Smith died  aged 40 (I've ordered death certificate this morning)

1883. Ellen Gray m Francis Elliott 15.12.1883 Grantham. Both of Grantham. He a widower.  B c1833 Leic, previously married to Sarah Mills b c 1832 Newark. Their last child Christalena b1878. Ellen says she is a spinster so looks as if she and Henry were never officially married.

1889. North KymeCharlotte Smith died aged 86 North Kyme. (Daughter Harriet Gray informant)

1891. Ship Farm, Louth, travelling vans
Francis Ellet mar 59 travelling barber b Buckminster
Ellen Ellet wife 54 b Skeklington
Ester Ellet dau 21 b Louth
Constance Ellet dau 19 b Loughborough (Constance Smith?)

1891 .Thomas Carter
Mary Ann Carter
William Carter 15
Lucy Carter 11
Annie Carter 9
Ann Carter 7
Thomas Henry Carter 7
Charles Carter 4

1891 Heckington
Phoenix Gray
Lydia Gray
Bartley Smith b1864 Lincolnshire

1891 Donington
William Gray
Sophia Gray
Thomas Smith b1881 Lincoln

1901 Brackenborough Road, Louth, in caravan
Frank Ellett mar 71 horse dealer stable b Candlesby, Lincs
Ellen wife 68 b Scredington
Herbert Smith grandson 7 b Louth

Phew. A lot eh? Thank you. Chez

[deb usa]

Chez


That's great .... now we can focus ....errr maybe  Great job on summarizing...i am still trying to figure out who MR E Smith (brother) is? If we could find them in 1851 and 1841 I am sure it would reveal more ...unfortunately I CANNOT see them at all ...argghhhhh

deb

[deb usa]

I have just realised I have been calling you Edwina ... eeekkk...I have no idea where that came from ,.... maybe another thread I am following ...sorry 

deb

[deb usa]

hi again

According to IGI (submitted) Barthwell had a sister;

BROWNETTA SMITH d/o Thomas Smith and Nancy
09 FEB 1794   Cold Higham, Northampton

I wonder if Brownetta and family could help us follow Barthwell...do we have any info on her?

deb 

[deb usa]

back again


a baptism;

Mary Ann Smith d/o BATHWELL SMITH and ELEANOR
 25 NOV 1821   Cottingham, Northampton

 
could this be another
ELIZABETH SMITH d/o BARTHWELL SMITH and ELLEN
13 JAN 1820   Thornton, Leicester

deb

[mongojoby]

Chez,

Great to see it all summarised like that.  I think the chances that the Constance Ellet who is with Francis and Ellen in 1891 is pretty high.  There is not a Constance Ellet with Francis, his wife Sarah and eight of their children, when they are in Braceborough Road, Louth in 1881.  Can't find them on 1871 yet, but as they have children either side of Constance's age with them it seems a bit of a coincidence that there isn't one there and the one that later appears fits with Constance Smith's details.

Deb,

I think Brownetta is another one of the names that appears on Ann's fantastic website as marrying Wisdom Smith (c. 5/6/1796 Twyford, Leics).  According to that site they had one daughter called Lucy c5.4.1814, Bainton, Nthants, there are no other details for her although Wisdom seems to have had a couple of other wives so I think we might need Ann again to explain!

[An65]

do you have a Florence Gray anywhere in the family ... found this marriage: There is a Mrs Winter who is a mourner. Found a Florence d/o Ambro? and Harriet
Florence B Gray Jun q 1916 spouse =Winter  Peterborough 
Walter W WinterJune q  1916  spouse= Gray  Peterborough

Mr and Mrs T Gray ... perhaps Tom and Mary Gray parents of Eric

deb

 

Florence Gray d/o Ambrose and Harriet was my Grandmother. She didnt marry a Winter so thats not her Im afraid.